Re:Sperm counts worldwide are plummeting faster than we thought
by Deukhoofd on Thursday December 01, 2022 @10:18AM
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That article is not saying sperm counts are not dropping, but arguing that that is not linked with dropping fertility (and that the original study is racist for only including western countries or something).
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Re:Sperm counts worldwide are plummeting faster than we thought
by PuppyTailWags on Thursday December 01, 2022 @10:27AM
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To be fair I think it is kinda racist to categorize sperm as either "Western" sperm vs "other" sperm. They couldn't do the bare fucking minimum and at least separate by continent or wealth? Health?
Re:Sperm counts worldwide are plummeting faster than we thought
by 310260 on Thursday December 01, 2022 @10:31AM
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It is really weird the original study decided to categorize it this way. Especially because there are potentially drastic environmental differences between say the US and Australia. Same goes for the "Other" category. How are China and Brazil similar?
Re:Sperm counts worldwide are plummeting faster than we thought
by twixfel on Thursday December 01, 2022 @10:45AM
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Maybe it's not the bare minimum? Maybe they had limited funding, largely access only to "Western sperm" (which actually is a reasonable category I would argue because we share a lifestyle to a greater or lesser degree), maybe they had sparse data that covered simply "not the West".
Re:Sperm counts worldwide are plummeting faster than we thought
by 310260 on Thursday December 01, 2022 @10:53AM
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If you have sparse data, then maybe you shouldn't be making grand comparisons or trying to make claims about the entire world?
Re:Sperm counts worldwide are plummeting faster than we thought
by PuppyTailWags on Thursday December 01, 2022 @11:02AM
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If they had access largely only to "western" sperm then they could separate it out by country, or income, or something more sane. It's not like the rest of the world shares a lifestyle!
Re:Sperm counts worldwide are plummeting faster than we thought
by rob74 on Thursday December 01, 2022 @10:27AM
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Not a biologist, but that kinda makes sense: you only need one single healthy sperm to reach the egg in order to fertilize it, so even men with pretty bad sperm counts are probably still able to have children. So the average sperm quality may drop for some while without a corresponding drop in fertility. But then the drop in fertility will be all the worse...