Spotify CEO renews attack on Apple after Musk's salvo

Re:Spotify CEO renews attack on Apple after Musk's salvo by sureglymop on Wednesday November 30, 2022 @07:27PM (#33810367)

And with Apple you are not the product? You're being tracked and shown ads on Apple devices too, it's just that you have even less control and Apple has a "worked" on their image in that regard.

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Re:Spotify CEO renews attack on Apple after Musk's salvo by voisin on Wednesday November 30, 2022 @07:40PM (#33810521)

Are you honestly suggesting that Google and Apple are the same in this regards?

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Re:Spotify CEO renews attack on Apple after Musk's salvo by woodruffw on Wednesday November 30, 2022 @07:50PM (#33810640)

Apart from App Store recommendations, where are you seeing Apple-originated ads on an iPhone?

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Re:Spotify CEO renews attack on Apple after Musk's salvo by smoldesu on Wednesday November 30, 2022 @08:18PM (#33810897)

News, Stocks, Apple Music are all big sources of ad junk. That's without mentioning all of the iCloud/service nags like AppleTV.

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Re:Spotify CEO renews attack on Apple after Musk's salvo by zaroth on Wednesday November 30, 2022 @08:25PM (#33810961)

So just long tap and uninstall them? It’s not analogous to the Windows Start Menu showing ads you can’t turn off.

What are the nags? I also don’t use Apple TV and don’t recall being nagged to use it.

The only thing that annoys me is the prompt to “finish setting up” my phone when I don’t want to turn on Siri. I get the prompt a few times and then it gives up trying to get me to turn on Siri and stays happily disabled.

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Re:Spotify CEO renews attack on Apple after Musk's salvo by smoldesu on Wednesday November 30, 2022 @08:35PM (#33811067)

I mean, I can also click the little 'x' button on YouTube banner ads, but that doesn't make them any less annoying. Apple's promotion of their own services in MacOS makes it impossible to live in for me in the same way I can't browse the web without uBlock Origin. Blocking out nagware helps me focus.

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Re:Spotify CEO renews attack on Apple after Musk's salvo by zaroth on Wednesday November 30, 2022 @08:57PM (#33811265)

I would totally agree but isn’t the uninstall a one time thing and then you never deal with again?

If Apple News keeps advertising to you after you uninstall News then Apple has overstepped and should be held to account. I don’t hold it against them showing Apple News content on the Home Screen / Notification Tray iff Apple News is actually installed.

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Re:Spotify CEO renews attack on Apple after Musk's salvo by ChuckNorris89 on Thursday December 01, 2022 @05:02AM (#33814360)

>So just long tap and uninstall them? It’s not analogous to the Windows Start Menu showing ads you can’t turn off.

On the contrary, it's exactly analogous to Windows start menu ads as they are just icons that you can tap/right-click and uninstall, exactly like on Apple.

But I do love the HN double standards here:

Apple ads: "Pfff, just tap and uninstall, nothing newsworthy here."

Windows ads that you can also right-click and uninstall: "OMG, the audacity from Microsoft, let's up-vote every single FUD blog post about this while frothing at the mouth."

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Re:Spotify CEO renews attack on Apple after Musk's salvo by zaroth on Thursday December 01, 2022 @08:30AM (#33815958)

If that’s the case for Windows ads (I don’t actually know) then I totally agree the response is highly overblown there too!

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Re:Spotify CEO renews attack on Apple after Musk's salvo by woodruffw on Wednesday November 30, 2022 @08:26PM (#33810980)

Oh, I don't use those things. But that's good to know.

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Re:Spotify CEO renews attack on Apple after Musk's salvo by smoldesu on Wednesday November 30, 2022 @08:28PM (#33811002)

Me neither, but every time I put on my Sony XM4s Apple Music gives me a nice modal asking me to pay for their service. It's really lovely UX.

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Re:Spotify CEO renews attack on Apple after Musk's salvo by woodruffw on Wednesday November 30, 2022 @08:33PM (#33811047)

Well, that's a little bit different from an ad, but I take your point.

That doesn't happen to me when I use the cheap earbud things that Apple sells (I use a Subsonic client app for music); do you have any idea what triggers it?

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Re:Spotify CEO renews attack on Apple after Musk's salvo by smoldesu on Wednesday November 30, 2022 @08:37PM (#33811086)

Probably not being logged into iCloud.

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Re:Spotify CEO renews attack on Apple after Musk's salvo by ace2358 on Wednesday November 30, 2022 @11:47PM (#33812461)

Curious which subsonic client? I’ve been using play:sun for a few years and sometimes AVSub. These clients are okay, but I do get some weird issues with them sometimes.

Having said that, I love subserver more than any other media server options.

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Re:Spotify CEO renews attack on Apple after Musk's salvo by woodruffw on Thursday December 01, 2022 @06:48AM (#33815061)

I currently use iSub, but I’m in the same position: occasional weird issues, some that I think are compounded by my use patterns (I tend to listen on the subway, so the frequent network disconnects seem to break the cache.)

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Re:Spotify CEO renews attack on Apple after Musk's salvo by spacemadness on Wednesday November 30, 2022 @11:50PM (#33812478)

What ad junk? Can you give an example? Do you mean notifications?

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Re:Spotify CEO renews attack on Apple after Musk's salvo by snapplebobapple on Wednesday November 30, 2022 @08:47PM (#33811183)

I wouod sqy you werent the product originally but apple figured out they were leaving money on the table and quickly converted to adding that business model on top of overcharging for devices over the last decade. Nowbitvis atleast as bad as android if nit worse

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