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Re:Stable Diffusion 2.0 Release by LunaSea on Thursday November 24, 2022 @05:47AM (#33729830)
There are already laws against it but enforcement is laking, as always.
Re:Stable Diffusion 2.0 Release by bonoboTP on Thursday November 24, 2022 @06:02AM (#33729930)
If you can't process/digest copyrighted content with algorithms/machine learning then Google Search (the whole thing, not just Image Search) is dead.

So no, it's not at all clear where the legal lines are drawn. There have been no court cases yet, regarding the training of ML models. People are trying to draw analogies from other types of cases, but this has not been tried in court yet. And then the answer will likely differ based on country.

Re:Stable Diffusion 2.0 Release by Xelynega on Thursday November 24, 2022 @10:40AM (#33732550)
> If you can't process/digest copyrighted content with algorithms/machine learning then Google Search (the whole thing, not just Image Search) is dead.

Not if Google honors the robots.txt like they say they do. Hosting content with a robots.txt saying "index me please" is essentially an implicit contract with Google for full access to your content in return for showing up in their search results.

Hosting an image/code repository with a very specific license attached and then having that licensed ignored by someone who repackages that content and redistributes it is not the same as sites explicitly telling Google to index their content.

A much closer comparison IMO would be someone compressing a massive library of copyrighted content and then redistributing it and arguing it's legal because "the content has been processed and can't be recovered without a specific setup". I don't think we'd need prior court cases to argue that would most likely be illegal, so I don't see how machine learning models differ.

Re:Stable Diffusion 2.0 Release by bonoboTP on Thursday November 24, 2022 @11:24AM (#33733100)
Google also indexes sites without robots.txt. Also, it's not mere classic indexing but ML processing too.
Re:Stable Diffusion 2.0 Release by astrange on Thursday November 24, 2022 @06:56PM (#33737521)
LAION/StableDiffusion is already legal under the same exemptions as Google Image Search and does respect robots.txt. It was also created in Germany so US court cases wouldn’t apply to it.
Re:Stable Diffusion 2.0 Release by bowsamic on Thursday November 24, 2022 @06:16AM (#33730038)
No, it has not yet been demonstrated that the current copyright laws forbid the use of copyrighted images to train neural networks.
Re:Stable Diffusion 2.0 Release by LunaSea on Thursday November 24, 2022 @11:41AM (#33733300)
The moment you make money from it the law is pretty clear.
Re:Stable Diffusion 2.0 Release by bowsamic on Thursday November 24, 2022 @12:41PM (#33734020)
No, it isn’t. Why are you lying?
Re:Stable Diffusion 2.0 Release by smeagull on Thursday November 24, 2022 @06:58AM (#33730318)
Can't wait for law enforcement to start arresting people for looking at images.
Re:Stable Diffusion 2.0 Release by Xelynega on Thursday November 24, 2022 @10:43AM (#33732588)
As long as they aren't repackaging and redistributing them, why would looking at them be illegal?
Re:Stable Diffusion 2.0 Release by smeagull on Tuesday November 29, 2022 @10:46PM (#33796808)
You're training your model. Maybe it's producing art that becomes illegal.