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Re:Microsoft's ex-UI chief is shocked about the Windows 11 s... by herodoturtle on Thursday November 24, 2022 @01:13AM (#33728258)
Loved this comment.

There was a time when we used to say the same about Windows Xp. And Windows 2000.

I wonder if each next generation of user prefers the new layouts each time?

I’m sure (or at least, I imagine) MS put a lot of resources into testing these UI overhauls.

Re:Microsoft's ex-UI chief is shocked about the Windows 11 s... by WaxProlix on Thursday November 24, 2022 @01:16AM (#33728279)
XP was fine. 2000 was good. Nobody pines for Windows ME. People said those things and they meant it. Windows 8-11 feel pretty bad, overall. 7 was okay.
Re:Microsoft's ex-UI chief is shocked about the Windows 11 s... by emodendroket on Thursday November 24, 2022 @01:41AM (#33728396)
The Windows 2000 UI was not "good," at least compared to what they have today.
Re:Microsoft's ex-UI chief is shocked about the Windows 11 s... by hyperman1 on Thursday November 24, 2022 @01:55AM (#33728479)
Personally, I consider 2000 the version where windows peaked. They did add some good things since then, but did more damage than good in total.

So as we differ this clearly in opinion: What makes you appreciate the windows UI more today?

Re:Microsoft's ex-UI chief is shocked about the Windows 11 s... by emodendroket on Thursday November 24, 2022 @02:32AM (#33728673)
Adding a search to the start menu is huge and completely changed how I use it -- I almost never do anything besides hit the Windows key and start typing a search query. Besides that, the way nested menus worked was frustrating and I'd frequently waste time doing things I didn't intend trying to navigate them.
Re:Microsoft's ex-UI chief is shocked about the Windows 11 s... by hyperman1 on Thursday November 24, 2022 @12:55PM (#33734210)
That explains it. I use win+R (the hotkey for run) the same way since I think win95.

When I search the start menu, it does the weirdest things, e.g searching notepad via bing instead of starting it, or preferring the uninstaller above the real program. So I learned that the start menu is basically broken for search, and became harder to use as a menu. I mostly abandoned it.

Meanwhile, the gui widgets, built in windows and control panels became much worse and dumbed down. It pretends to be a helpfull assistant, but behaves more like an arrogant drunk. I want to do some work on the machine, not be told about some experience it really wants to shove in my face.

Re:Microsoft's ex-UI chief is shocked about the Windows 11 s... by emodendroket on Thursday November 24, 2022 @04:36PM (#33736499)
Well, the difference is Windows + R I would need an exact command and the search bar I don't. I share some of your frustrations about the relevance of the top result but still, partial matches are important to me.
Re:Microsoft's ex-UI chief is shocked about the Windows 11 s... by hulitu on Thursday November 24, 2022 @09:11AM (#33731427)
What they have today is an UI disaster: cannot tell which window is active, scrollbars are so 90s - nobody cares about them, settings would make Google proud - one cannot know if the text is only a description or it starts a config dialog, 1 px window border - good luck resizing on a 4k monitor, gray on gray, titlebar highjacking, hard drive hidden in explorer beside virtual folders etc.
Re:Microsoft's ex-UI chief is shocked about the Windows 11 s... by bombcar on Thursday November 24, 2022 @01:22AM (#33728302)
XP was fine because you could throw it into 2000 mode, though looking back the fisher-price UI was just the UI.

Windows Vista wasn't terrible if you had a beefy machine and well-supported hardware. 7 was basically Vista but with newer machines and better hardware support. 8+ has been meh.

Re:Microsoft's ex-UI chief is shocked about the Windows 11 s... by midoridensha on Thursday November 24, 2022 @02:58AM (#33728824)
IMO, Vista was actually the best-looking Windows of all time.
Re:Microsoft's ex-UI chief is shocked about the Windows 11 s... by spikej on Thursday November 24, 2022 @01:15AM (#33728270)
Heck I still say that about Windows 2000. Clean, minimal interface, with all the power options easily available.