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Re:What if we talked about over-60s’ screen time as we talk ... by FPGAhacker on Wednesday November 23, 2022 @04:18PM (#33724657)
I haven’t hit my sixties yet, but it won’t be long now.

Youth is ignorance, and the only cure is getting older. When that happens you will marvel at how much you thought you knew and understood. You will listen or read the next generation making preposterous proclamations about older people and the older generations. Laughable in their certainty. Judging older people and finding them unworthy. Especially family. You may try to convey to the younger generation how you were just like them once, trying to shortcut the wisdom of age for them.

But there are no shortcuts. There is no easy way. So we can watch and reflect, those older than us probably have the same thoughts about us. Those ignorant 60 year olds think they know everything. Wait till they hit 90.

Re:What if we talked about over-60s’ screen time as we talk ... by tomcam on Wednesday November 23, 2022 @04:28PM (#33724768)
Yeah I'm in my 60s and... not too impressed by the supposed wisdom of my fellow Boomers.
Re:What if we talked about over-60s’ screen time as we talk ... by this_is_for_you on Wednesday November 23, 2022 @04:57PM (#33725042)
There is wisdom is what you are saying, as I have seen it myself over the years from my younger days to my current age. But there is something that needs to be said, so badly, that I made this account despite swearing off HN commenting for good; or so I thought. (Sorry Dang if this breaks a rule, but this comment really needs to be made.)

Here it is: Age in and of itself, does not equal wisdom. One can be wise through long life, yes; but experience is why. If one does not live an experienced life, they will still be just as unwise and potentially as dumb as those who are younger than them. Likewise, someone who has lived a rich and fulfilling life no matter how those events play out, can be just as wise if not wiser than those older than them.

So while youth can be ignorance, so too can the egotism of age. This will continue to be a problem in society until the day when everyone can come to agree that our lives are not equal, and never will be; because we cannot experience everything the same way across the world. It is that diversity in experience which is why it is so important that we learn to listen to each other, even if we don't like what they have to say. To expect obedience from anyone due to age alone is just a form of authoritarianism which has no right to exist; especially when the evidence shows abundantly that the older generations didn't get everything right either. Just like how no one in their right mind expects the younger to get everything right as well.

It is only the daft and delusional that think they have gotten everything right.

And from the looks of things out there in society, we have much more of that going on, than we have any wisdom being shared.

As a final word.

If you found this wise, consider this. I'm turning 34 soon.

And with that said, this is the last any of you will hear from me. This is all I have to say.

Re:What if we talked about over-60s’ screen time as we talk ... by mung on Friday November 25, 2022 @01:05AM (#33739730)
Yeah you can tell dumb people from smart people, dumb people, when they are older, think they know a thing to two by virtue of being older, while smart people recognize other smart people regardless of age.

Well, that’s one way that’s relevant to the discussion anyway.

Re:What if we talked about over-60s’ screen time as we talk ... by BlueTemplar on Wednesday November 23, 2022 @05:04PM (#33725107)
Hopefully you start noticing this by your 30s ?

Though supposedly it hits diminishing returns soon after that..?

And I don't want to spend my life constantly regretting choices made a few years before !

Re:What if we talked about over-60s’ screen time as we talk ... by medvezhenok on Wednesday November 23, 2022 @05:41PM (#33725453)
And yet, society advances as people holding backward views die off (not actually from people changing their minds). Has always been that way and always will be. If people lived twice as long you could imagine that inequality would be at least twice as bad and that society’s views would evolve slower than they do today.
Re:What if we talked about over-60s’ screen time as we talk ... by oneoff786 on Wednesday November 23, 2022 @06:21PM (#33725813)
My grandfather’s dying wisdom of loudly refusing the care of Black nursing staff cured me of the ignorance of trusting his balanced wisdom.
Re:What if we talked about over-60s’ screen time as we talk ... by fleddr on Wednesday November 23, 2022 @06:28PM (#33725863)
It's the circle of life.

Teenagers are idiots. They think they know everything but know little to nothing. They loudly reject and rebel against the legacy world.

Around their 30s, they dial it back significantly. Understand they were wrong, their ideas stupid and unhinged, and perhaps regret some style and music choices of their teenage years. Which will be total fun for this generation, the internet is forever. This is also the point where they get skin in the game of The System.

Rather than overthrow the system, they'll work it to their personal benefit because that's what adulthood requires. The more successful they are at it, the more they become the system.

New teenagers emerge which are now found annoying, and wrong. Cycle completed.

Which generation of rebellious youngsters became the ultimate neoliberal capitalists?

...HIPPIES!

Re:What if we talked about over-60s’ screen time as we talk ... by taurath on Thursday November 24, 2022 @07:22PM (#33737680)
> Teenagers are idiots. They think they know everything but know little to nothing. They loudly reject and rebel against the legacy world.

They also know what things did absolutely fucking nothing for them growing up and feel viscerally the harm that the previous generation caused them, and set out in their lives to live in a way that reduces that harm.

Boomers grew up being wild individualists having been raised by a generation of relatively sadistic collectivists. Millenials realize the downfall of unrestrained narcissism and tend towards more tolerant collectivism.

Gen Z was raised by a generation that valued emotional openness but couldn’t attain it in healthy way. They’re really into boundaries and prevention of emotional harm.

All this is basically what you said but without the value judgement.

Re:What if we talked about over-60s’ screen time as we talk ... by int_19h on Wednesday November 23, 2022 @10:51PM (#33727619)
In my country of birth, the 60+-year-old generation has managed to get the country into a war against half of the world. Please tell me more about their wisdom.
Re:What if we talked about over-60s’ screen time as we talk ... by gilbetron on Thursday November 24, 2022 @09:23AM (#33731558)
Unless you are under 20, you are just as responsible as any random 60+ year old.
Re:What if we talked about over-60s’ screen time as we talk ... by taurath on Thursday November 24, 2022 @07:17PM (#33737652)
Tell us more about the culpable 22 year olds
Re:What if we talked about over-60s’ screen time as we talk ... by gilbetron on Thursday November 24, 2022 @09:30PM (#33738530)
The ones not voting and the ones not engaging civically?
Re:What if we talked about over-60s’ screen time as we talk ... by int_19h on Friday November 25, 2022 @05:41PM (#33747639)
I don't know which country you had in mind, but I was talking about Russia. Voting and "civic engagement" have ceased to mean anything there long before this year.
Re:What if we talked about over-60s’ screen time as we talk ... by astura on Thursday November 24, 2022 @07:58AM (#33730803)
My parents are close to 70 and they are dumb as fuck.