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Re:Help seed Z-Library on IPFS by 8t88t8tttt8 on Wednesday November 23, 2022 @05:13AM (#33717297)
There is no chance that I would risk this. I would gladly donate several Terabytes of seeding if this possible in a secure and _anonymous_ network.
Re:Help seed Z-Library on IPFS by snvzz on Wednesday November 23, 2022 @05:20AM (#33717341)
It is possible to run ipfs behind tor.

And I'd argue it is the right way to do so.

Re:Help seed Z-Library on IPFS by deknos on Wednesday November 23, 2022 @05:33AM (#33717447)
how? i am behind NAT for example, i tried doing it. it did not work.

Is there a way for people who have just 20 mbit/s up/downstream and do not have an stable IP addres from home behind NAT?

I would run a server for long for seeding if it would be over TOR.

Re:Help seed Z-Library on IPFS by xwolfi on Wednesday November 23, 2022 @05:41AM (#33717517)
Dude come on, 20mb/s who will you serve with that, forget about it and move near a backbone.
Re:Help seed Z-Library on IPFS by deknos on Wednesday November 23, 2022 @06:02AM (#33717689)
Well.. do you have Money for moving and paying subscription? :D
Re:Help seed Z-Library on IPFS by _joel on Wednesday November 23, 2022 @06:13AM (#33717769)
That's the point of p2p with multiple seed though, every extra bps helps.
Re:Help seed Z-Library on IPFS by brokenmachine on Thursday November 24, 2022 @11:17PM (#33739118)
If he's got the rare file that you need, who cares if he's on 20mb/s or 2mb/s?

Pepperidge Farm remembers 300 baud.

Re:Help seed Z-Library on IPFS by tiluha on Wednesday November 23, 2022 @05:42AM (#33717525)
Running a hidden service on Tor should work without problems behind NAT
Re:Help seed Z-Library on IPFS by deknos on Wednesday November 23, 2022 @06:02AM (#33717694)
You mean, i can do a Hidden Service from behind NAT and connect that to IPFS via onion URL?

Let me see if i can figure this out :D

Re:Help seed Z-Library on IPFS by 8t88t8tttt8 on Wednesday November 23, 2022 @05:44AM (#33717540)
Doesn't that saturate Tor? Bittorrent via Tor was always highly discouraged to not overload the network with all the p2p traffic and IPFS is a very similar technique.
Re:Help seed Z-Library on IPFS by staringback on Wednesday November 23, 2022 @12:21PM (#33721942)
> Doesn't that saturate Tor? No, that's a stupid myth that needs to die. The tor network is nowhere near the advertised bandwidth capacity: https://metrics.torproject.org/bandwidth-flags.html
Re:Help seed Z-Library on IPFS by 8t88t8tttt8 on Thursday November 24, 2022 @04:02AM (#33729154)
https://support.torproject.org/misc/misc-4/ links to TODO which says "We've been saying for years not to run Bittorrent over Tor, because the Tor network can't handle the load;" and links to a dead page "Why Tor is slow". I googled that and found https://www.whonix.org/wiki/Why_is_Tor_slow#Misuse_of_the_To... and https://tails.boum.org/doc/anonymous_internet/tor/slow/index... which sound like they were both sourced from that defunct page.

So, if you call it a stupid myth, please provide some credible proof. The Tor developers as well as the maintainers of two highly respected tools built upon Tor disagree with you.

Re:Help seed Z-Library on IPFS by staringback on Tuesday December 06, 2022 @05:37PM (#33888106)
> We've been saying for years not to run Bittorrent over Tor, because the Tor network can't handle the load;"

12 year old blog post. Both the tor network and internet as a whole are completely different.

> two highly respected tools built upon Tor disagree with you

Both of those pages have a citation that says "it is bad.... just cause it is okay!"

The credible evidence is in my original comment, that shows hundreds of gigabits being underutilized on the network.

Re:Help seed Z-Library on IPFS by thetoon on Wednesday November 23, 2022 @05:54AM (#33717610)
Any pointer on that?
Re:Help seed Z-Library on IPFS by imhoguy on Wednesday November 23, 2022 @06:53AM (#33718042)
IPFS wont run via Tor, DHT is UDP based and Tor doesn't support UDP by design. Did my research last weekend, anybody more knowledgable, please correct me if I am wrong. Possibly it should run fine via I2P or Yggdrasil.
Re:Help seed Z-Library on IPFS by snvzz on Wednesday November 23, 2022 @07:38AM (#33718424)
Googled ipfs and tor just to make sure it's not hard to find.

The first result was a guide on how to do it.

Re:Help seed Z-Library on IPFS by thetoon on Wednesday November 23, 2022 @08:27AM (#33718840)
I'm not sure pointing to Google is "correcting him". But yeah, a good guide on how to use IPFS as an hidden service would be pretty useful.

(edit:typo)

Re:Help seed Z-Library on IPFS by deknos on Wednesday November 23, 2022 @10:11AM (#33720095)
did you also TEST it? last time i did this, it never really connected to the IPFS network. also it was marked as experimental
Re:Help seed Z-Library on IPFS by MayeulC on Wednesday November 23, 2022 @12:45PM (#33722255)
Yggdrasil is not really anonymous, though.
Re:Help seed Z-Library on IPFS by 3np on Wednesday November 23, 2022 @09:04AM (#33719189)
If you have a way to run ipfs over tor, please share.
Re:Help seed Z-Library on IPFS by 2Gkashmiri on Wednesday November 23, 2022 @05:16AM (#33717316)
you could probably seed over clear in the first go and then actual long term seeding over tor to protect you
Re:Help seed Z-Library on IPFS by t-3 on Wednesday November 23, 2022 @05:58AM (#33717647)
There is no such thing as an anonymous and secure network. Get the magical thinking hollywood crap out of your head and study the fundamentals, this is obvious stuff.
Re:Help seed Z-Library on IPFS by KoftaBob on Wednesday November 23, 2022 @08:47AM (#33719011)
Secure and anonymous network like which? Tor isn't meant for P2P seeding, so not sure which it would be.
Re:Help seed Z-Library on IPFS by 8t88t8tttt8 on Wednesday November 23, 2022 @10:14AM (#33720144)
I don't know. Tahoe-LAFS in I2P? Syncthing via Tor?