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Re:Why Twitter didn’t go down: From a real Twitter SRE by ldng on Tuesday November 22, 2022 @03:41AM (#33703492)
SpaceX is subsidised (and so is Tesla) and automotive industry was already in the process of electrifying. Tesla just put pressure to speed it up. Haven't checked but it would not surprises me if Formula E predated Tesla.
Re:Why Twitter didn’t go down: From a real Twitter SRE by kortilla on Tuesday November 22, 2022 @04:32AM (#33703815)
> SpaceX is subsidised

Winning government contracts over other competitors is not the same thing as “subsidized”. Otherwise Hilton is subsidized because government employees stay there sometimes.

Re:Why Twitter didn’t go down: From a real Twitter SRE by rpeden on Tuesday November 22, 2022 @08:31AM (#33705540)
I get the impression that some government contracts are used as stealth subsidies. And SpaceX, Tesla, and Starlink have benefited from plenty of actual subsidies, too.

To be clear, I'm not implying that's a bad thing. These companies seem like an example of subsidies working as intended, i.e. driving innovation.

Re:Why Twitter didn’t go down: From a real Twitter SRE by kortilla on Tuesday November 22, 2022 @03:11PM (#33710768)
Can you give specific examples? Diluting the meaning down to “the government is also one of this company’s customers” just makes it meaningless. That will cover nearly every large company.
Re:Why Twitter didn’t go down: From a real Twitter SRE by nikau on Tuesday November 22, 2022 @04:32AM (#33703823)
not to mention toyota did batteries and electric motors in the prius well before tesla and way more reliably and in higher volumes.
Re:Why Twitter didn’t go down: From a real Twitter SRE by snovv_crash on Tuesday November 22, 2022 @08:54AM (#33705766)
And yet somehow they never made 100% electric cars, and also no hybrid cars that were desirable outside of the eco-hippy niche.
Re:Why Twitter didn’t go down: From a real Twitter SRE by nikau on Tuesday November 22, 2022 @08:11PM (#33713807)
Sales data says otherwise:

In January 2020, Toyota passed the milestone of more than 15 million self-charging hybrid vehicles

If every vehicle sold by Tesla since its inception up to the most recent Tesla sales figures released for Q1 of 2022 are accounted for, there are over 2,645,000 Teslas on the road worldwide

Re:Why Twitter didn’t go down: From a real Twitter SRE by snovv_crash on Wednesday November 23, 2022 @09:45AM (#33719716)
Sure, cheap hybrids. Nobody is buying them because it's their dream car though, it is just affordable and cheap to run. Tesla makes cars that are desirable.