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Re:Why Twitter didn’t go down: From a real Twitter SRE by afavour on Tuesday November 22, 2022 @12:22AM (#33702313)
> Twitter isn’t shipping many new features right now

Is that true? I thought one of Elon’s big pushes was launching the whole Blue Tick subscription thing. That doesn’t feel like a small feature.

Re:Why Twitter didn’t go down: From a real Twitter SRE by EdwardDiego on Tuesday November 22, 2022 @12:34AM (#33702400)
Given that Twitter already offered premium API access, they've got billing in place, so now they add a new form that, once your credit card is verified, flicks a boolean on an account that was previously flicked by another process.

It might not be small, but it's not exactly huge.

Re:Why Twitter didn’t go down: From a real Twitter SRE by fomine3 on Tuesday November 22, 2022 @12:37AM (#33702416)
Blue is paid by in app purchase that seems to haven't implemented until that.
Re:Why Twitter didn’t go down: From a real Twitter SRE by EdwardDiego on Tuesday November 22, 2022 @12:46AM (#33702480)
As I said, a new form.

They already had billing integration, even if you're accessing it via a new route, and they already had a boolean on your account.

Like I said, not small, but not exactly huge either.

Re:Why Twitter didn’t go down: From a real Twitter SRE by sundvor on Tuesday November 22, 2022 @01:02AM (#33702567)
Except there was a crapload of social engineering testing around this feature that was just skipped altogether.

Suddenly that simple change had the potential for catastrophic consequences.

Re:Why Twitter didn’t go down: From a real Twitter SRE by EdwardDiego on Tuesday November 22, 2022 @01:27AM (#33702720)
Yep, doing it right would've been harder, but Musk was after doing it right now.
Re:Why Twitter didn’t go down: From a real Twitter SRE by sundvor on Tuesday November 22, 2022 @08:16PM (#33713842)
I guess you could say doing it right wasn't exactly rocket science.
Re:Why Twitter didn’t go down: From a real Twitter SRE by EdwardDiego on Thursday November 24, 2022 @08:20AM (#33731000)
/golf clap.
Re:Why Twitter didn’t go down: From a real Twitter SRE by afavour on Tuesday November 22, 2022 @12:59AM (#33702547)
It’s more than that. For one it’s not an existing boolean, there are now two different kinds of blue tick that are presumably stored separately. Blue is also supposed to give the user fewer ads (while making them more relevant) as well as additional weight in feed ranking algorithms. It’s also intended to be offered worldwide which adds a lot of complication to things like payment flows.

I’m not saying it’s going to bring the site down tomorrow but that one feature touches on a lot of services.

Re:Why Twitter didn’t go down: From a real Twitter SRE by EdwardDiego on Tuesday November 22, 2022 @01:31AM (#33702737)
I imagine their premium API was also available worldwide.

Okay, so two booleans, and checks of those booleans in a couple of algorithms.

This still isn't a huge change, it's not completely new functionality. Once again, not saying it's small, but it definitely isn't huge.

Re:Why Twitter didn’t go down: From a real Twitter SRE by afavour on Tuesday November 22, 2022 @10:12AM (#33706635)
Clearly worldwide payments is an issue otherwise they’d have rolled it out worldwide day one, and they didn’t. There must be something holding that back.

Plus I really don’t think you can compare B2B payments for premium API access to end user payments. Not least because they aren’t going to be going the same route: a huge number of them will be via Apple or Google in-app purchasing. Ask anyone who works with those systems, it isn’t a quick plug and play job.

In general though, a new subscription tier, feed algorithm changes, UI changes… if these aren’t, what is a big change in your book?