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Re:Is Wine Fake? by javiramos on Monday November 21, 2022 @07:37PM (#33700283)
Curious — What are the reasons?
Re:Is Wine Fake? by zaphod12 on Monday November 21, 2022 @07:42PM (#33700323)
If it's french wine, then import costs is the biggest...taxes and tariffs, but also transport costs and distribution in the US all taking a cut.

For wines in a top US region, you wind up paying a ton of money for the mortgage on the land, too.

Re:Is Wine Fake? by dmonitor on Monday November 21, 2022 @07:43PM (#33700336)
I know lots of US states have egregious liquor taxes. Alabama is particularly bad: 58% shelf price + $.45/L
Re:Is Wine Fake? by jcims on Monday November 21, 2022 @07:55PM (#33700426)
Part of that comes from having to pay tax on the barrel every year while it ages.
Re:Is Wine Fake? by brewdad on Tuesday November 22, 2022 @12:38PM (#33708461)
I don't think Alabama is aging a lot of wine relative to the US market as a whole. It's primarily a "sin" tax. One of the few taxes in the US that can gain popular support.
Re:Is Wine Fake? by umanwizard on Monday November 21, 2022 @07:46PM (#33700355)
High taxes, transportation cost, and, (for explaining why Californian wine in California is more expensive than French wine in France), economies of scale and subsidies in France.
Re:Is Wine Fake? by dv_dt on Monday November 21, 2022 @09:09PM (#33700903)
Frequently the wine seems hyper local - what I was there in a restaurant we often just ordered the house wine. If you talked to the waiters or owners it was frequently made locally and including by the owners grown in backyards of the hole in the wall places. I think it cuts out a lot of costs - and there was not a bad wine among them.
Re:Is Wine Fake? by 988747 on Tuesday November 22, 2022 @08:00AM (#33705266)
I always thought that "house wine" is just an euphemism for "whatever we could get our hands on" - a workaround for the restaurant so that they do not have to list a specific brand on the menu.
Re:Is Wine Fake? by dv_dt on Tuesday November 22, 2022 @10:46AM (#33706984)
That is likely true from time to time, but most restaurants seems to keep it fairly consistent as far as I can tell. I think it’s more often a choice of taste on the part of the restaurant for a less expensive but decent wine.