Re:Disney Shocker Bob Iger Back as CEO, Bob Chapek Out
by akho on Monday November 21, 2022 @05:13AM
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> The litmus test for this seems to be: Make the exact same scifi show (space etc) but without the Star Wars branding. Will it be considered a children’s move? My answer in this case, no. Will it still be decent? Yes it would.
The thing about Andor is that the Star Wars setting is entirely unnecessary. That series could be set anywhere; the setting is just a cash grab.
Re:Disney Shocker Bob Iger Back as CEO, Bob Chapek Out
by kranke155 on Monday November 21, 2022 @06:26AM
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What you call a cash grab an executive would call “target market”. You are not going to get funding to make a sci fi show (100+ million I assume) without integrating it into some kind of pre set market that will eat it up. In that sense it’s just product market fit.
Re:Disney Shocker Bob Iger Back as CEO, Bob Chapek Out
by akho on Monday November 21, 2022 @11:56AM
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There’s nothing sci-fi in that story. It could have been set in Nazi Germany, Tsarist Russia, Qing China, or anywhere else.
Except it would need to compete on a different field, and wouldn’t fare as well.
Re:Disney Shocker Bob Iger Back as CEO, Bob Chapek Out
by kranke155 on Monday November 21, 2022 @04:11PM
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Lol yeah getting people to see it is part of a the point, I guess?
Re:Disney Shocker Bob Iger Back as CEO, Bob Chapek Out
by colordrops on Monday November 21, 2022 @08:52AM
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I thought this at first, but it's arguably that Rogue One and Andor are the only Disney properties that deeply tie in to the universe. They really set up the events for the original trilogy and make them feel more filled out and real. The tone is one of sacrifice and hope, and intentionally plays as a counterpoint to the powerful space wizards in the films. It feels like the creators respect the narrative.
Re:Disney Shocker Bob Iger Back as CEO, Bob Chapek Out
by mrguyorama on Monday November 21, 2022 @03:16PM
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I have a particular distaste for rogue one, because it took a story that didn't need to be officially told, and gave it an official movie that was stupidly boring, uninteresting characters, no real value in the grand scheme of things, and generic as all hell.
"A bunch of bothans died to bring us this intel" is literally a more compelling story than rogue one.
Re:Disney Shocker Bob Iger Back as CEO, Bob Chapek Out
by colordrops on Monday November 21, 2022 @05:51PM
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Did you like The Last Jedi?
Re:Disney Shocker Bob Iger Back as CEO, Bob Chapek Out
by poisonarena on Monday November 21, 2022 @10:58AM
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I like watching all this garbage sometimes so I am not putting anyone down without putting myself down but it is what it is and the latest Dune movie might as well been a star wars or marvel movie, and that was the point when they watered down the smart parts, cleaned the politically dubious parts/swapped characters for representation, and added all the CGI summersault action
No one said anything about blowing minds.
>But because it is planned to drag on
Unfortunately all shows are infected with this garbage. You end up grading this stuff relatively on a spectrum (“don’t let the perfect be the enemy of the good” etc) . This the “ads” of the streaming era. It is so ubiquitous people either build a tolerance, tune-out during the interval, or stop watching tv all together in protest.
>to make baby men feel more sophisticated while hooking them into consistently watching
A more sophisticated show with better writing and actors would indeed make people feel more sophisticated…yes. If, to take another example, somebody pitched me “Better Call Saul, but in space,” I’d probably watch that as well. Frankly, Dune is more a children’s movie than Andor, so you might as well say that 25-40 year olds have no business amusing themselves with science fantasy or sci-fi at all.
The litmus test for this seems to be: Make the exact same scifi show (space etc) but without the Star Wars branding. Will it be considered a children’s move? My answer in this case, no. Will it still be decent? Yes it would.
Mandalorian, Boba Fett, Obi-Wan are all magnitudes more juvenile than this attempt.
A quasi-spoiler perhaps, but I personally find it hilarious that a subplot involves a workers revolt in what could be a Tesla gigafactory 20 years from now…in a tv show produced by Disney.