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Re:The erasure of women from online pregnancy literature by dmix on Saturday November 19, 2022 @09:38PM (#33677568)
> If I choose to say "pregnant people" and I explain that I'm choosing that word to intentionally include both pregnant women and pregnant non-women, is that shaming or bullying?

Are you really just talking about yourself? You don't also expect everyone else to use the same language? You don't want every corporate website, school newsletter, teacher's curriculum, every Tweet from a public person, random Reddit comments, etc to also use your preferred language?

Because that's what it's meant IRL.

I've heard 100 people on Reddit/Twitter saying "they just want to be left alone to do what they want" and "why do you care what people do with their own private lives (or in their bedroom)?". Then they spend all of their time gatekeeping and purity-testing the language and actions of every person they come into contact with.

Re:The erasure of women from online pregnancy literature by socialismisok on Saturday November 19, 2022 @10:02PM (#33677719)
I want to use language that makes trans parents feel included. That's it.

I'd encourage others to use that language and explain my reasoning (which is what I did above.) If they don't, I'm bummed out but I move on. I may think more negatively of that person in the future.

That's all. In real life and in internet life.

Re:The erasure of women from online pregnancy literature by bequanna on Sunday November 20, 2022 @02:24PM (#33684268)
You’re absolutely free to do use whatever language you want, but your expectation that I do the same, implicit or otherwise, is where I draw the line.

I get it. You’re super hip.

But words are indeed meaningful and you don’t get to choose how I use them or what they mean to me. I have a wife, not a “partner”. She is a woman, not a “birthing person”.

Make up whatever new words of definitions you wish. Hell, create a new language if you want. But stop trying to make everyone else conform to your vocabulary that primarily exists to virtue signal and for attention seeking.

Re:The erasure of women from online pregnancy literature by socialismisok on Sunday November 20, 2022 @02:38PM (#33684458)
Well, she's both a pregnant person and a pregnant woman.

I don't believe I've ever said you couldn't choose the words you prefer to use for yourself. The most I'd say is, "here is the reasoning for why this might make some people feel excluded" and let you make your own choices.

You've responded quite aggressively to me, attacking positions I don't hold while also insulting me. (Ironically calling me super hip, virtue signaling, and attention seeking.)

I'm non-binary, it has nothing to do with any of the reasons you mentioned, it's just the language I use with my community, and explaining to others calmly and rationally why it helps some people feel included.

Re:The erasure of women from online pregnancy literature by bequanna on Sunday November 20, 2022 @03:26PM (#33684898)
> "here is the reasoning for why this might make some people feel excluded"

I think maybe you and others have the wrong idea. Life isn’t like elementary school sports. You won’t always be included, there are no participation trophies, other people don’t care about you or your feelings.

Fulfillment in life is about what you can bring to the world, not the other way around.

Additionally, the only reason this is a talking point is the absence of any real struggles or oppression, so bored people invented some contrived, imagined grievances.

Watch how quickly this whole conversation stops once the western world faces some existential threat from a country like China.

Re:The erasure of women from online pregnancy literature by socialismisok on Monday November 21, 2022 @10:01AM (#33693244)
Trans people face brutal violence, social stigma, workplace discrimination, homelessness, and healthcare systems not knowing how to provide care at a rate that far exceeds other groups.

It's not just "bored people", and I suggest you read up on their struggles.