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Re:The erasure of women from online pregnancy literature by skim_milk on Saturday November 19, 2022 @09:02PM (#33677318)
>causing this much social division and disruption over this niche issue does not make any sense

The vast majority of people would agree!

However, in this environment, Cluster B have power advantages in the realm of social movements. Most social movements nowadays are disproportionally led by psychopaths (primary or secondary), people with Borderline Personality Disorder or narcissism (in short, people with Cluster B personality disorders), studies show.

It is impossible (yes, really, there have been studies) for healthy, normal people to understand the motivations of the mentally ill, including mild and severe Cluster B.

So, studies suggest that the confusion of the state of affairs and the inability to form a mentalizing theory of mind for the mild or severely mentally ill portion of leaders in social movements is actually a sign of health and intelligence :)

In short, expect even more confusion going forward into the future.

Re:The erasure of women from online pregnancy literature by eternalban on Saturday November 19, 2022 @09:53PM (#33677653)
This still doesn't explain why the establishment promotes this unless you are implying that the establishment itself is the Cluster B central.
Re:The erasure of women from online pregnancy literature by skim_milk on Saturday November 19, 2022 @10:09PM (#33677773)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=238zU5UOreY is a conference talk from a Cluster B expert about the topic, highly regarded at least by his peers. For better or for worse, the speaker is actually a diagnosed Narcissist and Psychopath who previously went to prison for his crimes he committed during his employment as a high ranking official in the Israeli government, but I argue that makes him the best person to listen to, at least on this exact topic; sort of an insider view.
Re:The erasure of women from online pregnancy literature by eternalban on Saturday November 19, 2022 @10:27PM (#33677889)
Thanks for sharing, viewing now.

I think you'll enjoy this article from 1940: https://www.foreignaffairs.com/articles/germany/1940-04-01/p... ("resonance")

(https://archive.ph/lZMnx)

Re:The erasure of women from online pregnancy literature by SturgeonsLaw on Saturday November 19, 2022 @11:24PM (#33678227)
Embracing these perspectives enables:

1) Forced conformity

2) Stifling of dissent

3) Grassroots support of censorship

4) A cheap way for corporations/politicians to market their expression of "the right message"

5) A cheap way to undermine competitors who don't express "the right message"

6) Redirection of criticism of capitalism/the system/the elite towards other groups in the same economic class

7) Promoting division of the same, lowering their chances of organisation

8) A neverending outrage factory for the media to generate views

What's not to love from the establishment's point of view?

Re:The erasure of women from online pregnancy literature by mindslight on Sunday November 20, 2022 @12:57PM (#33683348)
"If it bleeds, it leads".

The red political establishment loves things that make people recoil at the complexity of the real world. Even twenty years ago it was the prospect of artificial wombs and men having babies. Today it's humans with penises using the same bathroom as your daughter, amongst many other tempests in teapots.

Similarly, the blue political establishment loves vibrant examples of injustice, doubly so when that addressing that injustice doesn't rock the corporate order. So someone having what is essentially a rare medical/social condition, getting singled out and dumped on by the red team for political purposes, resonates strongly.

And thus is our hyper partisan world. It's not enough to ignore the topic because you don't actually know anyone who is transitioning, have it be fine to make some faux pas like when any cultures mingle, and rely on the general good faith of shared humanity to come to an understanding.

Rather, you've got to proactively stake your stance as some obtuse pro/anti, reject or "accept" an entire abstract group, and then conspicuously demonstrate your stance to the rest of your tribe.

Re:The erasure of women from online pregnancy literature by l3uwin on Sunday November 20, 2022 @01:32AM (#33678838)
Yeah trying to label all trans people and most other minorities you don't like as a hyper-online cabal mentally-ill secretly controlling the world really says more about you than anything.

The 'our enemy is soooo weak, but also too strong' dillusion is very much on display

Re:The erasure of women from online pregnancy literature by tablespoon on Sunday November 20, 2022 @02:04AM (#33678964)
> ...hyper-online cabal mentally-ill secretly controlling the world really says more about you than anything.

I didn't read that comment as saying that they "secretly control the world," but rather that the combination of changes in communication technology and those mental disorders leads those people to have a wildly disproportionate voice and impact.

I mean: elections are often won or lost based on which candidate can run the most ads. It's not too hard to believe that a disorders associated with excessive internet use would have an undue impact on society right now, due to something like having disproportionate share of social media posts.

Re:The erasure of women from online pregnancy literature by l3uwin on Sunday November 20, 2022 @03:28AM (#33679321)
You need to touch grass
Re:The erasure of women from online pregnancy literature by palmetieri2000 on Sunday November 20, 2022 @03:37AM (#33679369)
>"Most social movements nowadays are disproportionally led by psychopaths (primary or secondary), people with Borderline Personality Disorder or narcissism (in short, people with Cluster B personality disorders), studies show."

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>"It is impossible (yes, really, there have been studies) for healthy, normal people to understand the motivations of the mentally ill, including mild and severe Cluster B."

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>"so, studies suggest that the confusion of the state of affairs and the inability to form a mentalizing theory of mind for the mild or severely mentally ill portion of leaders in social movements is actually a sign of health and intelligence :)"

STUDIES.

Considering you refer to no less than three amorphous groups of "studies", please post them. Otherwise it really only points towards you using the term because you think it gives you intellectual credibility.

Re:The erasure of women from online pregnancy literature by l3uwin on Sunday November 20, 2022 @03:51AM (#33679424)
10$ says he cites Jordan Peterson
Re:The erasure of women from online pregnancy literature by palmetieri2000 on Sunday November 20, 2022 @05:27AM (#33679836)
Imagine downvoting a post asking you provide references you rely on to make your point.