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Re:Hyundai’s Ioniq 6 EV makes its US debut at the LA Auto Show by trog on Saturday November 19, 2022 @08:44PM (#33677197)
> People get triggered when I say this but I’m holding out for something over 400 miles in range.

I have almost the opposite desire! I want something that is maybe 100-200km range at a much lower price point. If I could buy something like an electric Mazda 3 with that sort of range at anything like the price point of the ICE version I'd buy one tomorrow. It would suffice for 99% of my driven distance, easily.

I think this car will sell for over $70k here in Australia, from a quick websearch. This pushes it straight into luxury car [tax] territory; I am not a car person & have no interest in dropping that much on a car.

Re:Hyundai’s Ioniq 6 EV makes its US debut at the LA Auto Show by ehnto on Saturday November 19, 2022 @09:14PM (#33677405)
I'm from AUS too, have you considered importing a smaller EV directly from Japan? It's a pretty easy process, and the options are starting to get really great and most are sub 40k AUD. The new Leaf looks really great, they've dropped the "Bubbly EV" aesthetic and it just looks like a regular hatchback now.

Check this, https://www.j-spec.com.au/lineup/all/Leaf/ZE1/id-D49

Then click "See prices", they're importing for around 30k AUD (which includes all shipping costs and compliance).

For me I still need a bit of extra range for inter-city trips (for those playing at home, that's thousands of KMs per trip), so I am looking at a Nissan Note Nismo, which is a series hybrid (electric drivetrain with a tiny petrol generator).

Re:Hyundai’s Ioniq 6 EV makes its US debut at the LA Auto Show by clouddrover on Saturday November 19, 2022 @11:24PM (#33678229)
The main problem with the Leaf these days is that it's CHAdeMO whereas Australia has moved to CCS Type 2 Combo. Most fast chargers still have CHAdeMO plugs, but you'd be better off with a CCS car.

If you know for sure that you'll only be doing city driving and you won't need fast charging then it doesn't matter as much.

Re:Hyundai’s Ioniq 6 EV makes its US debut at the LA Auto Show by ezzaf on Saturday November 19, 2022 @08:58PM (#33677290)
You're in luck, the BYD Dolphin should be launching soon in Australia for <$40k and probably 300km range.
Re:Hyundai’s Ioniq 6 EV makes its US debut at the LA Auto Show by ahelwer on Saturday November 19, 2022 @08:53PM (#33677259)
The car you're looking for is a used 2015 Nissan Leaf. Absolute top-tier city driving car.
Re:Hyundai’s Ioniq 6 EV makes its US debut at the LA Auto Show by daurnimator on Sunday November 20, 2022 @05:33AM (#33679856)
That seems to be at least a $22000 car. (cheapest one for sale right now: https://www.carsales.com.au/cars/details/2015-nissan-leaf-az... )

How on earth is that worth it when a similar era e.g. mazda 3 is $13000?

Re:Hyundai’s Ioniq 6 EV makes its US debut at the LA Auto Show by xxpor on Sunday November 20, 2022 @10:36AM (#33681713)
They're stupid inflated right now. Pre pandemic, they were selling for ~7500 used in the US.
Re:Hyundai’s Ioniq 6 EV makes its US debut at the LA Auto Show by ahelwer on Sunday November 20, 2022 @04:01PM (#33685242)
I kick myself every day for not pulling the trigger when they were that cheap. That's less than some higher-tier electric bikes!
Re:Hyundai’s Ioniq 6 EV makes its US debut at the LA Auto Show by trog on Sunday November 20, 2022 @05:46PM (#33686338)
> They're stupid inflated right now. Pre pandemic, they were selling for ~7500 used in the US.

Some stats indicate that second hand car prices are plummeting at the moment now that supply chains are normalising. I suspect this won't extend to electric cars which kind of have their own supply-side problems though!

Re:Hyundai’s Ioniq 6 EV makes its US debut at the LA Auto Show by TheHappyOddish on Saturday December 03, 2022 @06:03PM (#33848404)
$9000 is a couple of years of fuel for a lot of people. Other incentives (cheaper rego, no FBT, etc) may apply to you depending on your position/state.

You're also likely to spend significantly less in maintenance due to simpler systems with less wearable parts.

Re:Hyundai’s Ioniq 6 EV makes its US debut at the LA Auto Show by danielheath on Saturday November 19, 2022 @10:02PM (#33677714)
In Australia you can get a 2012 Leaf for about 20k; typically about 100km range at that age. A 2017 Leaf is closer to 30k and is a nicer drive with more like 150km range.
Re:Hyundai’s Ioniq 6 EV makes its US debut at the LA Auto Show by trog on Sunday November 20, 2022 @12:34AM (#33678616)
I have heard concerns about the Leaf around it using air cooling for batteries and how they fare in very hot climates (34 degrees C here right now).

I have a mate with a Leaf and have been meaning to ask him how it's going. But definitely keeping an eye on them.

Re:Hyundai’s Ioniq 6 EV makes its US debut at the LA Auto Show by SystemOut on Saturday November 19, 2022 @10:31PM (#33677910)
Do they sell the Mini Electric there? US pricing is 34K which is about 50K AUS. Range wise it's 185km. I have a friend here in the US with one and she loves it.
Re:Hyundai’s Ioniq 6 EV makes its US debut at the LA Auto Show by TheHappyOddish on Saturday December 03, 2022 @06:04PM (#33848415)
$50k for a car with 185km range vs $60k for a base Tesla with 430km range. I don't see the value proposition there.
Re:Hyundai’s Ioniq 6 EV makes its US debut at the LA Auto Show by rjsw on Sunday November 20, 2022 @06:44AM (#33680179)
Some plug-in hybrids seem to fit into that range bracket, and because they have a smaller battery than a fully electric car are at a lower price point.
Re:Hyundai’s Ioniq 6 EV makes its US debut at the LA Auto Show by theshrike79 on Sunday November 20, 2022 @06:52AM (#33680227)
Take a look at the older Ioniq (28kW and 38kW models).

They look like "normal" cars (since the same body was used for their PHEV version) and aren't that expensive.

The one with the smaller battery can do ~150-200km reliably, but charges really fast. The bigger battery one does an easy 250km in the summer, but has a hobbled charging speed.

Re:Hyundai’s Ioniq 6 EV makes its US debut at the LA Auto Show by fomine3 on Sunday November 20, 2022 @07:45AM (#33680491)
I think so too, but Mazda MX-30 EV (matches the category, but not very cheap) was heavily bashed by who want longer range EV. People should understand that long range isn't required for every EVs.
Re:Hyundai’s Ioniq 6 EV makes its US debut at the LA Auto Show by TheHappyOddish on Saturday December 03, 2022 @06:00PM (#33848389)
LCT is over $85k for EVe, so it doesn't fit into that territory.

A model 3 standard is $60k and the savings for most people on fuel is why you see them everywhere.

MG have a car for $45k that fits your requrements though.