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Re:Elizabeth Holmes is sentenced to more than 11 years for f... by jasonhansel on Friday November 18, 2022 @05:52PM (#33663823)
Interesting to compare this with the ongoing FTX disaster.

I think these two cases are sort of parallels: people assumed that someone was a genius to such an extent that they disregarded any signs of fraud and sought little proof of the assertions being made.

Re:Elizabeth Holmes is sentenced to more than 11 years for f... by wpride on Friday November 18, 2022 @06:58PM (#33664797)
Also, accumulating powerful backers and friends to signal "this is a successful company" instead of building an actual company.
Re:Elizabeth Holmes is sentenced to more than 11 years for f... by throw422223 on Friday November 18, 2022 @07:19PM (#33665025)
She is an attractive public women in a male domain that made a big mistake. Male startup founders have indeed done mistakes on equal or worse level.

For the past years tech bros felt like this gives them a free ticket to negatively obsess about her, and unload their hate on females on her for bonding.

That is well-studied primate behavior which you can read up. Destroying the confidence and perceived self-value of the available wombs assures that they don’t leave their tribe. They are also more likely to mate with low value males (instead of focusing on high status only) if they don’t see value in themselves.

A female Elon Musk is unthinkable at the current human state, unless we remove the ancient primate behavior from the pool.

Re:Elizabeth Holmes is sentenced to more than 11 years for f... by sesm on Friday November 18, 2022 @09:02PM (#33665942)
The primate behavior part doesn’t make sense to me. As a primate, I don’t want females in my tribe to mate with low value males.
Re:Elizabeth Holmes is sentenced to more than 11 years for f... by 0xy on Friday November 18, 2022 @07:49PM (#33665315)
SBF will get a lower sentence or might even dodge jail altogether considering how many political palms he's greased, including throughout the current administration.
Re:Elizabeth Holmes is sentenced to more than 11 years for f... by jasonhansel on Friday November 18, 2022 @08:01PM (#33665426)
I'd give it a couple months.
Re:Elizabeth Holmes is sentenced to more than 11 years for f... by shapefrog on Saturday November 19, 2022 @06:44AM (#33669284)
I would happily suggest that Elizabeth Holmes was orders of magnitude BETTER connected than SBF.
Re:Elizabeth Holmes is sentenced to more than 11 years for f... by DuckFeathers on Sunday November 20, 2022 @07:01AM (#33680271)
But Holmes did not donate hundreds of millions to various groups and definitely did not help launder large amounts of money from war torn country. You have to be connected closer to the swamp to be protected by them.
Re:Elizabeth Holmes is sentenced to more than 11 years for f... by regularjack on Saturday November 19, 2022 @08:17AM (#33669775)
I keep seeing this sort of reply here but I don't get it. Isn't the judiciary system in the US independent from politics? If you can donate your way out of jail, something is seriously wrong with the justice system.
Re:Elizabeth Holmes is sentenced to more than 11 years for f... by 0xy on Saturday November 19, 2022 @08:15PM (#33677020)
The courts are independent, but for criminal matters government prosecutors decide whether someone even makes it to court.

Consider the case of Hillary Clinton, who by textbook definition mishandled classified documents, which other people have been jailed for. She was not even referred for prosecution because of her widespread connections and political machinery.

There's numerous other examples of connected people getting light or no sentences. Jussie Smollett is another one.

Re:Elizabeth Holmes is sentenced to more than 11 years for f... by c7DJTLrn on Friday November 18, 2022 @08:54PM (#33665886)
I wonder if these people are just psychopaths remarkably good at showing the right signs, or if there's just a huge supply of moronic investors.
Re:Elizabeth Holmes is sentenced to more than 11 years for f... by kfarr on Friday November 18, 2022 @08:59PM (#33665925)
Yes
Re:Elizabeth Holmes is sentenced to more than 11 years for f... by amrangaye on Saturday November 19, 2022 @06:56PM (#33676383)
Sorry this is an aside: but why’re we still doing this? It stopped being funny a long long time ago, doesn’t contain any information in regards to OP’s question, and we all know in real life people mean XOR when they say OR. so I’m just curious: did you recently find out about this and still find it amusing? What is it adding to the discussion? Nothing personal / maybe I’m just getting too old :)
Re:Elizabeth Holmes is sentenced to more than 11 years for f... by rullelito on Saturday November 19, 2022 @04:08AM (#33668463)
Elon says hi.