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Re:Ask HN: Why some people do not communicate clearly? by nolok on Friday November 18, 2022 @04:13PM (#33662304)
Us frenchmen, on a world scale, tend to be direct, realist and pessimist. So american optimism is really jarring at first until you get used to it.
Re:Ask HN: Why some people do not communicate clearly? by tnel77 on Friday November 18, 2022 @04:35PM (#33662618)
I went on a cruise and met some Canadians (they told me). I noticed they were speaking French and said “Is that French you’re speaking?” “Yes.” “That’s really cool! What part of Canada are you from?”

“The part that speaks French.”

I just frowned and walked off as it was meant to be a polite question. An educated guess would have said that they were from “the French speaking part of Canada,” but I guess they didn’t like small talk.

In hindsight, I find that interaction funny.

Re:Ask HN: Why some people do not communicate clearly? by yamazakiwi on Friday November 18, 2022 @05:04PM (#33663028)
I wouldn't be able to tell if they were being cheeky or avoiding small-talk in that instance.

I could be wrong but as a Non-French speaker I've heard that French banter is a little snide or pedantic in nature on purpose but generally not meant to be mean-spirited. Kind of like when a friend says "No Shit Sherlock" but with less enthusiasm.

Re:Ask HN: Why some people do not communicate clearly? by tnel77 on Friday November 18, 2022 @11:17PM (#33666875)
Their facial expressions said they were annoyed with me, but I could have been mistaken!
Re:Ask HN: Why some people do not communicate clearly? by dutchCourage on Saturday November 19, 2022 @06:45AM (#33669286)
Also they're forgetting than Québec is not the only french speaking area of the country!

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/French_language_in_Canada

Re:Ask HN: Why some people do not communicate clearly? by unconed on Saturday November 19, 2022 @01:12AM (#33667495)
Your say "direct", but in my experience French business communication is ridiculously convoluted, bordering on the baroque.

"Dear Sir,

I hope this message finds you well and in good spirits.

Would it be possible to arrange a meeting by telephone in the near future, perhaps even the next week, if that fits with your calendar?

I would shame myself if I neglected to mention that I will prepare the requested documents at the earliest convenience."

Is how I can only describe it.

Re:Ask HN: Why some people do not communicate clearly? by yoz-y on Saturday November 19, 2022 @11:48AM (#33671762)
Ah yes. Any sort of official French written communication is drowned in this sort of drivel.