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Re:If you (still) work at Twitter and you can code, head to ... by r721 on Friday November 18, 2022 @01:24PM (#33659326)
>In an email for remote Twitter engineers, Elon Musk says he wants to speak to people on video ("only those who cannot physically get to Twitter HQ are excused") but "if possible, I would encourage you to fly to SF to present in person." He'll be at the office until midnight.

https://twitter.com/ZoeSchiffer/status/1593665774744350721

Re:If you (still) work at Twitter and you can code, head to ... by buildbot on Friday November 18, 2022 @01:32PM (#33659503)
This shows how out of touch he is - fly, right now, possibly across the country, just to please me. He has no concept or care of how much that might cost or disrupt someones life.
Re:If you (still) work at Twitter and you can code, head to ... by jmeister on Friday November 18, 2022 @01:36PM (#33659572)
No your comment shows how coddled techies are. Lawyers, bankers, consultants keep themselves available for such calls over any major client/deal, leave alone a singular event in company history.
Re:If you (still) work at Twitter and you can code, head to ... by somehnguy on Friday November 18, 2022 @01:40PM (#33659693)
I would go the other way and claim the other professions you mentioned must be the coddled ones. How little must they actually have responsibility for in their personal life if they can just fly across country at a moments notice? I can’t do that, I have responsibilities to take care of that are way more important than stroking some guys ego.
Re:If you (still) work at Twitter and you can code, head to ... by drchopchop on Friday November 18, 2022 @01:39PM (#33659660)
Lawyers and bankers a) don't fly on their own dime, b) have huge potential financial upside in getting those deals done.
Re:If you (still) work at Twitter and you can code, head to ... by sparrish on Friday November 18, 2022 @01:52PM (#33659971)
These employees are in the same situation.

a) will be using Twitter expenses to fly (company credit card or reimbursed)

b) may keep their 6-figure jobs.

Re:If you (still) work at Twitter and you can code, head to ... by eropple on Friday November 18, 2022 @02:40PM (#33660868)
Could you explain to me who you think is processing reimbursements when AR/AP seems to have all quit? Ditto for company cards--most company cards I've had have fallback personal obligations if the company refuses to pay for a charge. What assurances do any of these people have that they won't be stuck with the check?

A Twitter developer can get a "6-figure job" just about anywhere pretty quickly, and many can get ones that haven't just gutted their total comp by going private. What's the point, exactly?

Re:If you (still) work at Twitter and you can code, head to ... by nerdjon on Friday November 18, 2022 @01:40PM (#33659671)
That is part of their job. They are likely well paid for that disruption to their lives (or should be, I honestly don't know).

This is not part of what the engineers signed up for and has nothing to do with being "coddled"

Re:If you (still) work at Twitter and you can code, head to ... by chasd00 on Friday November 18, 2022 @01:44PM (#33659784)
if i was a remote at twitter i would go just to satisfy my curiosity. It would be one hell of an experience to witness Musk in all his crazy and what the plans are. Back in reality, I think my expectations would be solidly set on jumping ship within 30 days though.
Re:If you (still) work at Twitter and you can code, head to ... by jareds on Friday November 18, 2022 @01:40PM (#33659676)
Loyer's and Bankers know that's part of the job depending on where they work. When going over job expectations at all of my jobs traveling with one days' notice was never expected.
Re:If you (still) work at Twitter and you can code, head to ... by prettychill on Friday November 18, 2022 @01:40PM (#33659691)
By this logic the vast majority of workers in any industry are coddled
Re:If you (still) work at Twitter and you can code, head to ... by chasd00 on Friday November 18, 2022 @01:43PM (#33659763)
i'm sure everyone has a corporate card or at least a process for re-imbursement ( assuming that department still exists)
Re:If you (still) work at Twitter and you can code, head to ... by snoopy_telex on Friday November 18, 2022 @02:12PM (#33660365)
I’ve never had a corporate card in my entire career, including Twitter. I’ve been able to book via a company provided travel agency, but I’ve never had the card in my hands.
Re:If you (still) work at Twitter and you can code, head to ... by chasd00 on Friday November 18, 2022 @02:43PM (#33660914)
> I’ve never had a corporate card in my entire career

oh i guess that's what happens when you assume heh. i've always had a corporate card, or for at least the past 15 years. I work in consulting though so it's more common to book flights/hotels and travel individually.

Re:If you (still) work at Twitter and you can code, head to ... by fknorangesite on Friday November 18, 2022 @03:39PM (#33661774)
> i'm sure

Why?

Re:If you (still) work at Twitter and you can code, head to ... by Teandw on Friday November 18, 2022 @02:03PM (#33660215)
He literally says if you can't, you're excused from needing to. It's important to not lie.
Re:If you (still) work at Twitter and you can code, head to ... by qwytw on Friday November 18, 2022 @02:16PM (#33660458)
> those who cannot physically get to Twitter HQ are excused

Probably means that if there are no actual flights from where you're to SF and that you couldn't get there in time no matter how much you wanted. Not exactly the same thing...

Re:If you (still) work at Twitter and you can code, head to ... by Teandw on Friday November 18, 2022 @02:31PM (#33660728)
There is literally no reason to think he means that. That seems more like a deep personal hatred of someone and just trying to find the worst in everything they say or do.
Re:If you (still) work at Twitter and you can code, head to ... by ryanwaggoner on Friday November 18, 2022 @03:03PM (#33661228)
Any benefit of the doubt he was entitled to went out the window a long time ago.
Re:If you (still) work at Twitter and you can code, head to ... by qwytw on Friday November 18, 2022 @04:22PM (#33662438)
That's how the majority of people would interpret:

"only those who cannot physically get to Twitter HQ are excused"

the key word is "physically".

> That seems more like a deep personal hatred No need to make strange assumptions. I have no feelings one way or the other. Yet I'm pretty sure that most reasonable people would interpret what Musk said the same way I did.

Re:If you (still) work at Twitter and you can code, head to ... by rotten on Friday November 18, 2022 @01:33PM (#33659509)
I guess they'll hop in their private jets and head on over.
Re:If you (still) work at Twitter and you can code, head to ... by nickthegreek on Friday November 18, 2022 @01:43PM (#33659761)
weekend before thanksgiving no less!
Re:If you (still) work at Twitter and you can code, head to ... by jnwatson on Friday November 18, 2022 @01:36PM (#33659575)
Is this for real?

I hope a historian is following Musk around and taking notes, because this will make a delicious movie about hubris and its limits.

Re:If you (still) work at Twitter and you can code, head to ... by r721 on Friday November 18, 2022 @01:40PM (#33659684)
Corroborated by Kate Conger from NYT:

>In a follow up email, Musk encouraged people to fly to SF for this.

https://twitter.com/kateconger/status/1593657847564353536