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Re:Is This the End of Crypto? by luddit3 on Thursday November 17, 2022 @02:47PM (#33644552)
And if we turned off the internet how many companies would be worthless, because that is about as likely to happen as all mining stopping.
Re:Is This the End of Crypto? by themihai on Thursday November 17, 2022 @02:59PM (#33644740)
What is crypto used for? Who uses/needs the crypto network for anything except speculation?
Re:Is This the End of Crypto? by kayamon on Thursday November 17, 2022 @08:24PM (#33648565)
People use Bitcoin to trade and send money around the world with each other.
Re:Is This the End of Crypto? by ahaseeb on Friday November 18, 2022 @07:51AM (#33653864)
Issue is that the amount of people who ACTUALLY use is for money transfer without the speculation part is very lil. Probably less than 1%
Re:Is This the End of Crypto? by themihai on Friday November 18, 2022 @12:35PM (#33658344)
Do you know anyone who does that unless there is a scam/fraud or illegal sale?
Re:Is This the End of Crypto? by acdha on Thursday November 17, 2022 @04:20PM (#33645893)
Normal people would notice and agitate for the internet to be restored. Most people’s daily lives would be significantly impacted.

In contrast, only speculators would notice bitcoin going offline. They might laugh at the guys who told them they weren’t going to make it but that’d be it. Nothing would break, nobody would be in line ahead of them failing to buy something, etc.

That matters because bitcoin’s floor value is zero: as a very weak fiat currency, the only reason to use it is when you think it’ll be profitable and if that confidence drops miners will stop putting more hard money into the system.

Re:Is This the End of Crypto? by HN_is_for_gemes on Friday November 18, 2022 @02:32PM (#33660734)
The floor value of EVERY company is $0, but what is your point in saying that?

You can be mad that people paid $$$ for Beanie Babies but that does mean that there value is nothing.

Re:Is This the End of Crypto? by acdha on Friday November 18, 2022 @03:03PM (#33661230)
> The floor value of EVERY company is $0, but what is your point in saying that?

There's a big difference between something like a Beanie Baby, which has a base value of whatever someone will pay for a toy (you're not getting rich, but it's not zero), a company whose shares convey fractional ownership of assets and an ongoing revenue stream, and a very weak fiat currency like Bitcoin which has value only to the degree to which your buyer believes they will be able to resell it at a profit.

With a strong fiat currency like the US dollar, that belief is anchored by the size of the related economy and the millions of people who are guaranteed to use USD to pay taxes and other government fees, sell goods and services to the government or be paid by it, and the millions of business relationships specified in dollars. Yes, that could change over time but it's not something which happens quickly except in disaster scenarios where the value of any currency is moot and you wouldn't be running Bitcoin miners in any case.