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Re:Elon Musk tells Twitter staff to work long hours or leave by memish on Wednesday November 16, 2022 @02:31PM (#33629154)
Improving Twitter would improve the world. If people working there are as serious and dedicated as SpaceX employees, they are much more likely to succeed. Serious Twitter engineers and designers must be more excited than ever that playtime is over.
Re:Elon Musk tells Twitter staff to work long hours or leave by UncleOxidant on Wednesday November 16, 2022 @02:38PM (#33629295)
But it's not like improving twitter would improve the world like nuclear fusion, better batteries or a cure for cancer would. It's hard to even establish metrics for what "improvement" or even "success" looks like in the case of twitter. From Musk's standpoint "improvement"/"success" means he makes money (or at least doesn't lose a lot of money) on the deal. There are plenty of alternatives to twitter out there already and probably others being worked on.
Re:Elon Musk tells Twitter staff to work long hours or leave by nix23 on Wednesday November 16, 2022 @02:39PM (#33629326)
>Improving Twitter would improve the world.

Man that's a massive bubble you life in, no one care's about twitter, especially not the "world"

Re:Elon Musk tells Twitter staff to work long hours or leave by bilvar on Wednesday November 16, 2022 @03:53PM (#33630408)
Sure, but Twitter cares about you.
Re:Elon Musk tells Twitter staff to work long hours or leave by nix23 on Wednesday November 16, 2022 @04:37PM (#33631048)
No why? I used it 10 years ago so my plant's could tell me when they need water...

I have Privacy Badger and all Anti-Social Block-list you can imagine ;)

Re:Elon Musk tells Twitter staff to work long hours or leave by memish on Wednesday November 16, 2022 @06:44PM (#33632695)
I wish.
Re:Elon Musk tells Twitter staff to work long hours or leave by halfmatthalfcat on Wednesday November 16, 2022 @02:34PM (#33629201)
Are you speaking as a Twitter employee?
Re:Elon Musk tells Twitter staff to work long hours or leave by itissid on Wednesday November 16, 2022 @03:03PM (#33629676)
Get 10 journalists in a room and ask them what twitter experience is like. I know at least 1 that tells me they don't scroll twitter feed anymore, they only have lists they follow or tweet deck or something
Re:Elon Musk tells Twitter staff to work long hours or leave by HillRat on Wednesday November 16, 2022 @04:21PM (#33630816)
Twitter has laid off, fired, and will likely continue to bleed out some of the finest minds working on highly resilient, performant, and distributed technologies. Product design was absolutely hollowed out by the first round of layoffs, and Musk has said that product design will take a backseat to engineering (albeit without engineers!), indicating that he thinks Twitter is a technical, not a product, problem (which neatly explains a number of the missteps of the past few weeks). In short, there are very few "serious engineers and designers" left inside Twitter, and it'll be a long and arduous process to find people with the appropriate skills and experience to replace them, especially now that it's clear that one's employment at Twitter is solely at the whim of a notably capricious owner.

Beyond that, demanding engineers engage in death-march efforts for a social media app is very, very different than doing it for electric cars or rockets, which are linear technical challenges with defined delivery endpoints; when does the death march for NuTwitter (or "X," or whatever) end? What's the vision? What's the goal? How does this improve the world, as opposed to protecting Musk's pledged Tesla shares? No answer to any of that.

Quite frankly, it's a testament to the work Twitter engineers have done to date that the platform hasn't already fallen over, though it's showing signs of creaking under stress. If Musk faces a mass exodus at the end of this week, then it may not survive the World Cup.

Re:Elon Musk tells Twitter staff to work long hours or leave by pimlottc on Wednesday November 16, 2022 @06:25PM (#33632494)
The word “serious” is doing a lot of heavy lifting in this post…
Re:Elon Musk tells Twitter staff to work long hours or leave by memish on Wednesday November 16, 2022 @06:43PM (#33632679)
Seriously.