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Re:You could own a 555-XXXX phone number but Verizon charged... by nopenopenopeno on Monday November 14, 2022 @12:58AM (#33590608)
> Every time I see a 555 number in a movie, I'm reminded that it's a movie and am dropped out of immersion.

What about a cut? A camera zoom? A title screen? Sub-titles? I am intrigued about how you experience films.

Re:You could own a 555-XXXX phone number but Verizon charged... by eru on Monday November 14, 2022 @01:58AM (#33590951)
Re:You could own a 555-XXXX phone number but Verizon charged... by throwaway675309 on Monday November 14, 2022 @02:04AM (#33590991)
Or a lens flare for that matter
Re:You could own a 555-XXXX phone number but Verizon charged... by throwaway290 on Monday November 14, 2022 @03:12AM (#33591369)
I am intrigued about how you experience films... or books for that matter. If all you see is black and white letters, does this mean you could never experience immersion in the story?
Re:You could own a 555-XXXX phone number but Verizon charged... by nopenopenopeno on Monday November 14, 2022 @11:16AM (#33596253)
I am a filmmaker. I went to film school. Maybe that has something to do with it?

I cannot recommend enough a book called In The Blink Of An Eye by Walter Murch.

Re:You could own a 555-XXXX phone number but Verizon charged... by throwaway290 on Monday November 14, 2022 @11:47AM (#33596860)
Ah, then there's no need to be intrigued by how WalterBright experiences films. Just remember how you experienced films before you went to film school, or remember how you experience a book or a cartoon (unless you went to book or cartoon school too I guess).

Scenes and cuts, like letters on paper, are the medium. A phone number OTOH is part of the story. Immersion is broken by a badly told story, not the medium.

Re:You could own a 555-XXXX phone number but Verizon charged... by WalterBright on Monday November 14, 2022 @01:46PM (#33598865)
Going to film school would likely ruin movies for me, as I'd see the man behind the curtain. I used to watch the "making of ..." bonus features, until I realized they'd ruin the movie.

It's like that for video games for me. I used to program them for a job when I was in college. Ever since, when I see a video game, I don't see the game so much as how it is constructed and programmed.

Re:You could own a 555-XXXX phone number but Verizon charged... by nopenopenopeno on Monday November 14, 2022 @01:54PM (#33598997)
Thanks. This is a good point. I don’t remember experiencing films that way. I actually struggled to even follow storylines in films when I was younger, so I don’t think I ever got immersed as described.
Re:You could own a 555-XXXX phone number but Verizon charged... by WalterBright on Monday November 14, 2022 @01:43PM (#33598837)
I experience immersion in books. What drops me out of immersion is misspellings. I remember one which was a good story, but about 90% of the pages had at least one misspelling. It's like hitting a pothole when you're driving.

Book misspellings have changed over the years. Since people use spell checkers now, they are of the form:

    He arrived at the top of the stairs painting heavily.
Yes, that's an actual example :-)

With films, I drop out of immersion when seeing things like reflections of the camera crew, anachronisms, etc.

Re:You could own a 555-XXXX phone number but Verizon charged... by throwaway290 on Monday November 14, 2022 @03:07PM (#33600185)
It's slightly individual, e.g. some may pick up on misspellings in books (or anachronisms or mismatching sound in video) more easily than others, but my theory is whenever something concerns the story or requires any effort to determine whether it concerns the story or not it breaks immersion.

Misspellings in books, foreign objects or people in a show or film, obviously fake phone numbers and things like that fall into that category.

On the other hand, things like paper quality or font choice (and lens angles, cuts, video resolution, color) tend to not break immersion if the story is right.

Re:You could own a 555-XXXX phone number but Verizon charged... by iso1631 on Monday November 14, 2022 @04:35AM (#33591844)
We see real life through a lens, we don't see real life with 555 numbers
Re:You could own a 555-XXXX phone number but Verizon charged... by nopenopenopeno on Monday November 14, 2022 @11:17AM (#33596271)
You absolutely do NOT see real life through a lens. This is one of the first things you learn in film school.
Re:You could own a 555-XXXX phone number but Verizon charged... by theandrewbailey on Monday November 14, 2022 @11:35AM (#33596648)
It's literally impossible to see without a lens.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lens_(anatomy)