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Re:An unconfirmed tweet about Freeport LNG is upending gas m... by throwaway932489 on Friday November 11, 2022 @06:54PM (#33568402)
Wikipedia has an interesting note

"Cultural influences such as Christmas creep may have led to the winter season being perceived as beginning earlier in recent years"

I think I've always considered November to be winter, and at some point I picked up that Christmas is in the middle/even towards the end to break it up and give everyone something to look forward to, so I'm always a bit surprised seeing talk of winter in the future tense once I've put on the winter duvet/started wearing a coat all the time/turned on the central heating (not this year).

Equally anything in Feb seems firmly Spring.

But I'm not trying to force this on anyone!

Re:An unconfirmed tweet about Freeport LNG is upending gas m... by cronin101 on Friday November 11, 2022 @07:36PM (#33568700)
In many parts of Northern Europe, at least, February is often the absolute coldest month (most likely for snowfall in UK, for example). So for heating worries, we’re definitely not out of the woods come February.
Re:An unconfirmed tweet about Freeport LNG is upending gas m... by KevinGlass on Friday November 11, 2022 @07:45PM (#33568764)
Here in New England, USA November is firmly in Fall/Autumn And Feburary is firmly Winter. March is also Winter until the last week.
Re:An unconfirmed tweet about Freeport LNG is upending gas m... by soperj on Saturday November 12, 2022 @12:58AM (#33570408)
In Alberta November is Firmly in Winter, same with February (normally the coldest month of the year). Most years October & April also fall into it. Only month I haven't seen snow is July.
Re:An unconfirmed tweet about Freeport LNG is upending gas m... by mindslight on Saturday November 12, 2022 @07:07AM (#33572321)
You forgot The Marmot.
Re:An unconfirmed tweet about Freeport LNG is upending gas m... by Fogest on Friday November 11, 2022 @08:24PM (#33569031)
I realized this is exactly what has been happening for me. Because of even how early things like Christmas shows and stores switching into Chrismas mode happens it really does make it feel like Winter is late. But really it's just that culturally Christmas has started happening earlier.
Re:An unconfirmed tweet about Freeport LNG is upending gas m... by seiferteric on Friday November 11, 2022 @11:05PM (#33569838)
I always thought that the shortest day shouldn't be the first day of winter, but rather the middle, so then winter would begin in late October, and summer would begin in late April.
Re:An unconfirmed tweet about Freeport LNG is upending gas m... by teslabox on Saturday November 12, 2022 @01:18AM (#33570519)
The oceans are Earth’s heat buffers. Summers are when the ocean stores heat, winters are when it releases heat.

There is more land in the northern hemisphere, more ocean in the Southern Hemisphere. Summers get hotter in the north, winters get colder. This is because land does not store/release nearly as much heat as ocean.

Re:An unconfirmed tweet about Freeport LNG is upending gas m... by thaumasiotes on Saturday November 12, 2022 @04:33AM (#33571564)
> I always thought that the shortest day shouldn't be the first day of winter, but rather the middle

That's not just you. Every traditional calendar says the same thing.

As far as I can tell, the idea that winter starts on the solstice, when it's been winter for more than a month (unless you're in the tropics), is an invention of Hallmark or some other calendar manufacturer. It is based on nothing.

I tried reading Poor Richard's Almanac to see if it indicated the "beginning of [any season]", but if it does I didn't understand. (There is a column of "remarkable days", but it is often difficult to understand the entries in that column.)

Careful track is kept of the exact time of sunrise and sunset, and of what kind of weather to expect ("rain"; "snow"), but the seasons don't seem to be labeled explicitly.

Re:An unconfirmed tweet about Freeport LNG is upending gas m... by niij on Sunday November 13, 2022 @10:18AM (#33583780)
There was indeed a calendar change just 4 years after the 1748 almanac you were reading. In 1752 the American colonies switched from the Julian to the Gregorian calendar. That leaped 11 days ahead.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Adoption_of_the_Gregorian_cale...