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Re:Binance Is Strongly Leaning Toward Scrapping FTX Rescue T... by pearjuice on Wednesday November 09, 2022 @10:55AM (#33533398)
Why would they even consider taking them over? They killed a competitor by declaring them as insolvent. The damage has been done. The user funds SBF siphoned out of FTX aren't coming back and doubt CZ is going to refund them out of pocket IF they take them over. The tech behind FTX is probably the same or worse than what Binance has. Customer acquisition happens anyway as the people still wanting to stay active in crypto will probably go to Binance.
Re:Binance Is Strongly Leaning Toward Scrapping FTX Rescue T... by mamonster on Wednesday November 09, 2022 @11:09AM (#33533639)
Prevent contagion in crypto most likely. If FTX is forced to go into liquidation, it's hard to estimate the systemic effect in crypto.

When you are the biggest shop at the fair you wanna keep the festival going as well.

Re:Binance Is Strongly Leaning Toward Scrapping FTX Rescue T... by rdtwo on Wednesday November 09, 2022 @12:00PM (#33534451)
Yeah but how do you liquidate it would take years
Re:Binance Is Strongly Leaning Toward Scrapping FTX Rescue T... by seydor on Wednesday November 09, 2022 @03:37PM (#33537471)
If they buy them isn't that a bigger risk of contagion? Current Binance customers would be concerned
Re:Binance Is Strongly Leaning Toward Scrapping FTX Rescue T... by johnvanommen on Wednesday November 09, 2022 @10:57AM (#33533438)
I was thinking the same thing.

This reminds me of 2008, when companies were trying to get "rescued", such as Lehman, but Lehman couldn't make a compelling argument why they were worth acquiring, once the accounting books were opened.

Re:Binance Is Strongly Leaning Toward Scrapping FTX Rescue T... by new2this on Wednesday November 09, 2022 @04:24PM (#33538056)
"Fools Gold" does a great job of documenting this contagion effect (among other things) during the 2008 crash. Highly recommend
Re:Binance Is Strongly Leaning Toward Scrapping FTX Rescue T... by johnvanommen on Monday November 14, 2022 @01:29AM (#33590789)
Thanks! I'll check it out.
Re:Binance Is Strongly Leaning Toward Scrapping FTX Rescue T... by firekvz on Wednesday November 09, 2022 @11:05AM (#33533571)
PR

They are the biggest exchange now, they gotta look like they care and tried to help so they can attract all the ones who need a new home

You still dont get crypto dinamics, is not about the tech, is about how much money you can extract from people trusting you

Re:Binance Is Strongly Leaning Toward Scrapping FTX Rescue T... by ddorian43 on Wednesday November 09, 2022 @11:33AM (#33534015)
Pretty expensive PR. Just run some superbowl ads and name some stadiums.
Re:Binance Is Strongly Leaning Toward Scrapping FTX Rescue T... by chucksmash on Wednesday November 09, 2022 @11:38AM (#33534072)
Note parent said "look like they care." It's only expensive if they go through with the purchase.

So far it has cost them a couple of tweets.

Re:Binance Is Strongly Leaning Toward Scrapping FTX Rescue T... by firekvz on Wednesday November 09, 2022 @11:53AM (#33534329)
Is not expensive, it was actually really cheap, the tokens Binance has are from ICO stages, OTC deals, trades for other tokens, etc.

Binance or CZ paid never paid face cash value for any those tokens, simple as that.

And most important, he hasn't purchase FTX. So it was just tweets and have your PR team contact major crypto news sites

Re:Binance Is Strongly Leaning Toward Scrapping FTX Rescue T... by nprateem on Wednesday November 09, 2022 @11:23AM (#33533851)
Nice way to look at a competitor's books.
Re:Binance Is Strongly Leaning Toward Scrapping FTX Rescue T... by colinmhayes on Wednesday November 09, 2022 @11:09AM (#33533628)
"Even the largest crypto exchanges are scams" is bad for the crypto space as a whole.
Re:Binance Is Strongly Leaning Toward Scrapping FTX Rescue T... by ahtihn on Wednesday November 09, 2022 @11:47AM (#33534231)
> They killed a competitor by declaring them as insolvent.

Worded like that you make it sound like that's a lie.

CZ didn't declare them insolvent. He just made the fact public.

Re:Binance Is Strongly Leaning Toward Scrapping FTX Rescue T... by 314 on Wednesday November 09, 2022 @01:29PM (#33535844)
Until the box was opened the cat was neither alive nor dead.
Re:Binance Is Strongly Leaning Toward Scrapping FTX Rescue T... by WeylandYutani on Wednesday November 09, 2022 @02:34PM (#33536714)
Re:Binance Is Strongly Leaning Toward Scrapping FTX Rescue T... by miohtama on Wednesday November 09, 2022 @12:31PM (#33534951)
As Matt Levine put it in his newsletter regarding 2008:

”The survival is not a zero sum games. For banks to survive it is beneficial to other banks to survive as well.”

Re:Binance Is Strongly Leaning Toward Scrapping FTX Rescue T... by unicornmama on Wednesday November 09, 2022 @12:36PM (#33535011)
Speculation, but consider that plausible scenario that SBF went nuclear and then CZ retaliated in what will turn into crypto mutually assured destruction.