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Re:Why are glasses so expensive? The eyewear industry prefer... by newyankee on Tuesday November 08, 2022 @09:53PM (#33527039)
You know, my family member bought a pair of cheap glasses for 2 $ in India. Granted it was probably not very powerful or may last long. But I am shocked at the definition of what is cheap. I am now skeptical if the glasses he bought actually work well enough for him.
Re:Why are glasses so expensive? The eyewear industry prefer... by asicsp on Tuesday November 08, 2022 @10:29PM (#33527241)
Probably mass-produced?

Glass lenses cost me Rs 1000 (about $12.5) a few months back (myopia, -5) - I'd say these were on the cheaper side, and no special coating (they cost as much as the lenses themselves!!). Frames on the cheaper end also cost around this much.

Re:Why are glasses so expensive? The eyewear industry prefer... by wyclif on Wednesday November 09, 2022 @01:52AM (#33528269)
I also prefer glass lenses. The tradeoffs seem to be weight (glass weighs more) and durability (glass can be cleaned with cloth or a towel without scratching, plastic lenses need to be babied with a microcloth or else you get little swirly scratches that will eventually ruin the lenses).

I'd rather have my glasses weigh a bit more if the lenses are more durable.

Re:Why are glasses so expensive? The eyewear industry prefer... by asicsp on Wednesday November 09, 2022 @02:05AM (#33528328)
Yeah, scratching was the biggest reason I went back to glasses. Got a plastic one last year and within months it got plenty of scratches. Before that I had glass lenses that lasted more than 5 years (though one of lenses did break, which is why I wanted to try plastic).
Re:Why are glasses so expensive? The eyewear industry prefer... by otherme123 on Wednesday November 09, 2022 @03:19AM (#33528717)
Don't clean your glasses, wash them.

The scratches are caused by particles of dust pressed by you against the lens, and then rubbed all around. A quick rinse removes almost all the dust, and then you can dry them with any clean towel, tissue or even the shirt. I also use a drop of soap to degrease them.

I have plastic lenses with zero scratches after five years of use.

Re:Why are glasses so expensive? The eyewear industry prefer... by wyclif on Wednesday November 09, 2022 @08:48AM (#33531535)
Oh, I know about this. I did rinse them thoroughly. Then I used a few drops of Dawn dish detergent to wash them. But what I found was that even if you clean plastic lenses thoroughly, what counts is how you dry them. If you use paper or even a towel it can scratch them incrementally over time.

It's so much more convenient (or maybe I'm just lazy!) to be able to dry glass lenses with a towel, paper towel, a t-shirt, or anything absorbent.

Re:Why are glasses so expensive? The eyewear industry prefer... by dotancohen on Wednesday November 09, 2022 @09:13AM (#33531844)
The dish detergent seems to get under coatings and ruin them, in my experience. Glass cleaner is fine, though.
Re:Why are glasses so expensive? The eyewear industry prefer... by vitejose on Wednesday November 09, 2022 @10:06AM (#33532599)
Interesting. Are you referring to Windex or one of the optical-grade solutions? I used to use dish soap but I found that I can just run mine under warm water for thirty seconds or so and that gets them pretty clean.
Re:Why are glasses so expensive? The eyewear industry prefer... by dotancohen on Wednesday November 09, 2022 @10:40AM (#33533135)
Yes, windex.
Re:Why are glasses so expensive? The eyewear industry prefer... by rahimnathwani on Tuesday November 08, 2022 @10:05PM (#33527105)
$2 is extremely cheap.

Sure, it's enough to pay for the materials (frames cost pennies, and cheap lenses maybe $1?).

But someone still has to cut the the lenses to size, and fit them to the frame. This requires both equipment and skill.

I don't think I've ever paid less than $15-$20 for prescription single-vision glasses. I've paid more even in the 'wholesale' optical market in Beijing.

$2 is easily achievable for reading glasses, which are mass produced with lenses installed at the factory.

Re:Why are glasses so expensive? The eyewear industry prefer... by newyankee on Tuesday November 08, 2022 @11:40PM (#33527582)
So, probably someone is actually selling them at very low margins and/or it is subsidised by some entity.
Re:Why are glasses so expensive? The eyewear industry prefer... by paulmd on Wednesday November 09, 2022 @12:47AM (#33527911)
(not indian but this is my impression from what I've read)

india has a very weird medical economy at times, geared to the costs necessary to deliver ultra-basic care to many people who are dirt-poor, utilizing generics (occasionally of questionable quality), the ultra-cheap cost of labor, etc.

for example centchroman is an interesting case-study... the government basically paid to develop and take it through trials and it was generic from day-1, and then the generics manufacturers go to work and you have birth control that can be delivered to market for under a dollar a month (4 pills) in retail quantities, and the government distributes them free because it's cheaper than pregnancy/social services.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ormeloxifene

Not that at the high level, the care isn't great, but, a lot of india is super poor and underdeveloped and delivering core medicines cheaply is relatively effective to provide a super basic level of care, they have a focus on delivering super cheap generics that cover the basic use-cases. I'm sure the glasses are cheap shitty molded plastic or something, or at most a super basic molded glass lens, perhaps with some subsidies. I'm mentally imagining the "BCG" glasses from basic training, designed to be indestructible and unscratchable (aka the birth control glasses).

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/GI_glasses

But that is the 80% solution, make em cheap and polish em up with super cheap labor and with basic materials you probably can get that down to 2 bucks or within subsidy distance of that.

Re:Why are glasses so expensive? The eyewear industry prefer... by seesaw on Wednesday November 09, 2022 @01:34AM (#33528141)
I have used an Indian online site [1] to order a really good pair of glasses. It cost me $150, but I found the quality to be much better than what I could get in the US.

[1] https://www.titaneyeplus.com/

Re:Why are glasses so expensive? The eyewear industry prefer... by kalabilla on Friday November 11, 2022 @07:23AM (#33559919)
you ordered from a brand which is considered premium in India. You can get similar kind of glasses at even lower price at lenskart.com and from local stores.
Re:Why are glasses so expensive? The eyewear industry prefer... by lupire on Wednesday November 09, 2022 @09:37AM (#33532185)
India has very low labor costs, so you get a lot if all you need is something you can get by paying someone to do something with materials on hand, without substantial energy or rare materials.
Re:Why are glasses so expensive? The eyewear industry prefer... by newyankee on Wednesday November 09, 2022 @10:20PM (#33541777)
What stops us from making , decent quality 20 $ glasses and selling in US for 50 $ max ? (inclusive of shipping, export duties etc)
Re:Why are glasses so expensive? The eyewear industry prefer... by lupire on Friday November 11, 2022 @03:34PM (#33566426)
Nothing, which is why there are lots of independent eyeglasses websites selling cheap glasses.
Re:Why are glasses so expensive? The eyewear industry prefer... by roncesvalles on Wednesday November 09, 2022 @04:02AM (#33528946)
Skilled labor is dirt cheap in India. Most car mechanics will do an oil and filter change for INR 200 (USD 2.46) if you bring your own materials. Practically a rounding error.
Re:Why are glasses so expensive? The eyewear industry prefer... by Symbiote on Wednesday November 09, 2022 @02:06AM (#33528329)
You can buy "reading glasses" from a supermarket in Britain for $4.

They might be OK, but custom lenses will almost certainly be better.

(Also, glasses ordered online in Britain start at less than $10 a pair. Once something purchased that infrequently costs less than a McDonald's meal, there's not much pressure to further reduce the price. It's one hour work at the legal minimum wage.)

Re:Why are glasses so expensive? The eyewear industry prefer... by nine_k on Wednesday November 09, 2022 @02:38PM (#33536767)
Here in the US I could buy reading glasses in a pharmacy for less than $10 (several variations). They come in a range like -2.0 to +2.0 in increments of 0.25.

I don't wear glasses, but I suppose I did I could get something that roughly works for me for a price of a coffee and a couple of doughnuts. These glasses don't look cool, but don't look ugly either, they are just extremely basic. Likely fine for reading at home.

Re:Why are glasses so expensive? The eyewear industry prefer... by LinuxBender on Friday November 11, 2022 @10:37AM (#33562112)
They are also on Amazon. There are folding reading glasses that go from 1.0x to 4.0x that are $15 for 2 pair. I keep one on me for really tiny print. It even survived ending up in the washing machine.
Re:Why are glasses so expensive? The eyewear industry prefer... by CorrectHorseBat on Wednesday November 09, 2022 @02:24AM (#33528404)
$2 is cheap, but the best glasses I've ever bought start at $6, up to $30 for all the filters, so I'm not surprised you can buy something useful for $2.
Re:Why are glasses so expensive? The eyewear industry prefer... by schwartzworld on Wednesday November 09, 2022 @06:28AM (#33530009)
Zenni Optical has $6 glasses, but if you want scratch resistant lenses the price goes up to almost $11.