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Re:Binance Acquires FTX by mrtksn on Tuesday November 08, 2022 @02:43PM (#33523332)
Rest assured that the regulations are coming because the crypto simply did a speed-run of unregulated securities market and repeated every fraud or scam that the traditional markets went through over the history.

In the process, huge fortunes were created and libertarians were empowered(but not enough to be the main political power). Congrats to them but there's nothing anarchist left in crypto, they even end up consolidated and centralised. No interesting business models or financing came out of it except for ransomware.

The silver linings might be that the crypto regulations can be made with the current technology and globalisation in mind, hopefully.

Re:Binance Acquires FTX by thr0wawayf00 on Tuesday November 08, 2022 @03:08PM (#33523602)
Exactly, it's bizarre to read about the wildcat banking era in the US and why the Fed was created while simultaneously looking around at the rate of mainstream crypto scams and institutional failures nowadays.

The Fed sure isn't without its issues, but it was created to solve the exact problems that we're now seeing proliferate via the crypto space.

Re:Binance Acquires FTX by IG_Semmelweiss on Tuesday November 08, 2022 @06:09PM (#33525533)
I don't think this is correct.

The FED was created in 1913 for a very specific reason - to counter the Panic of 1907 by creating a banker of last resort.

It did nothing to curb the banker speculation that led to the panic of 1907

Witness LTCM, Web bubble, Subprime crisis, all fueled by banks willing to lend and overextend themselves beyond margin. The 1913 ACT did not change that one bit except make the speculators never "lose"

The FED did nothing to resolve speculation, if anything, bubbles are worse and now they are worldwide thanks to them and their low rates.

Re:Binance Acquires FTX by MrMan on Tuesday November 08, 2022 @07:08PM (#33525982)
in my town in the 19th and early 20th centuries there were numerous bak runs where local people were wiped out. we collectively decided to take steps to make that much much less likely to happen
Re:Binance Acquires FTX by thr0wawayf00 on Tuesday November 08, 2022 @09:16PM (#33526855)
> Witness LTCM, Web bubble, Subprime crisis, all fueled by banks willing to lend and overextend themselves beyond margin.

This was addressed under Glass Steagall by creating the FDIC and ushering in the fractional banking system, which kept commercial and investment banking separate and imposing liquidity requirements and a review system on banks. This legislation was later repealed during the Clinton administration and was largely seen as one of the key mistakes that led to the 2008 crisis.

That doesn't mean that the Fed is failure now and should be completely done away with. The runs we're seeing on crypto exchanges are very similar to what the Fed was created to avoid.

Re:Binance Acquires FTX by eunos on Tuesday November 08, 2022 @09:51PM (#33527021)
> This legislation was later repealed during the Clinton administration

Repealed by congress which was controlled by GOP at that time.

Re:Binance Acquires FTX by caeril on Tuesday November 08, 2022 @05:32PM (#33525233)
Regulations are coming? On a fully public ledger?

You understand that BTC, ETH, and every derivative non-privacy-coin is exactly what the regulators have been salivating for, right? Why regulate a non-repudiable chain-of-custody that mathematically proves your serfs'/slaves' assets that you can seize at will?

> libertarians were empowered(but not enough to be the main political power).

You should re-examine the GOP, particularly the tickets on today's ballots. This ain't your grandfather's GOP.

Re:Binance Acquires FTX by mrtksn on Tuesday November 08, 2022 @06:49PM (#33525831)
It’s always amusing to see crypto people claiming that mathematics can’t be regulated. Just like they can’t regulate chemistry, right?

Well, actually it’s always the peoples behavior that is regulated. Obviously no one can stop you mixing chemicals in private but they can totally tell you what you can and can’t do in public with it. The same thing goes for crypto, you can calculate block hash all you want but they can intervene if you engage in a business deal with someone else.

Oh and regulation doesn’t mean ban, necessarily. It means rules on how you deal with it so that the risk of unwanted consequences is reduced. You can expect to have rules on how you keep the money if you run a stablecoin for example.

Re:Binance Acquires FTX by TedDoesntTalk on Tuesday November 08, 2022 @07:42PM (#33526209)
Didn’t the US regulate use of a Bitcoin mixer this year? There are more reporting requirements for US citizens and entities.
Re:Binance Acquires FTX by threeseed on Tuesday November 08, 2022 @06:57PM (#33525895)
Regulations aren't exclusive to the US.

Many parts of the world e.g. Australia are heavily regulated in the financial sector and will not be looking to water them down just because its 'crypto'.

Re:Binance Acquires FTX by TeMPOraL on Tuesday November 08, 2022 @05:59PM (#33525458)
> the crypto simply did a speed-run of unregulated securities market and repeated every fraud or scam that the traditional markets went through over the history.

I think the whole endeavor may end up strengthening the traditional economy - crypto space repeating centuries of fraud in a decade is effectively a booster shot - suddenly it's obvious why all those laws ended up in the books in the first place.

> and libertarians were empowered(but not enough to be the main political power)

In a sense, they've discovered a novel way of attempting to gain power - I don't think many people expected someone could wish a parallel economy into being and leverage that to for political gain.