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Re:Framework Laptops are now Thunderbolt 4 certified by kube-system on Monday November 07, 2022 @04:11PM (#33512527)
And they've introduced a new problem: rather than buying a standardized USB-C dongle, you've got a new one-off form factor.
Re:Framework Laptops are now Thunderbolt 4 certified by nrp on Monday November 07, 2022 @04:14PM (#33512554)
The designs are available on GitHub under Creative Commons licensing: https://github.com/FrameworkComputer/ExpansionCards

We've seen both community developed Expansion Cards and other device makers starting to adopt Expansion Cards.

Re:Framework Laptops are now Thunderbolt 4 certified by kube-system on Monday November 07, 2022 @04:20PM (#33512636)
I appreciate that, and my comment wasn't a knock against your product. I like what y'all are doing, it's just not my personal preference.
Re:Framework Laptops are now Thunderbolt 4 certified by echelon on Monday November 07, 2022 @04:36PM (#33512870)
Don't think of it as a dongle. It allows them to build a combinatorial number of SKUs off of a linear number of them. Basically, you get a fully custom laptop body.
Re:Framework Laptops are now Thunderbolt 4 certified by the_duke on Monday November 07, 2022 @04:18PM (#33512619)
Why? You can just load the laptop with four USB-C adapters and stick to USB-C for everything if you want to.
Re:Framework Laptops are now Thunderbolt 4 certified by throwaway773748 on Monday November 07, 2022 @04:19PM (#33512629)
Not really, you're perfectly free to put USB-C ports in and you can use your standardised dongles if you want. Or mix and match.

I can't imagine what other existing form factor would have been suitable and more useful than them just creating their own and open sourcing the design.

Re:Framework Laptops are now Thunderbolt 4 certified by fragmede on Monday November 07, 2022 @09:22PM (#33515232)
it would have been interesting if they had reused the physical pcmcia form factor for it, just changing the pins for a usb-c port
Re:Framework Laptops are now Thunderbolt 4 certified by taf2 on Monday November 07, 2022 @04:15PM (#33512581)
At least the EU hasn't regulated away the possibility of this to some brilliant idea. To me it's also pretty solid - the built in dongle as it is means i can use my laptop on my lap with different wires - or on my work bench with less clutter...
Re:Framework Laptops are now Thunderbolt 4 certified by wlesieutre on Monday November 07, 2022 @04:23PM (#33512687)
Can you not plug a regular USB-C dongle in to the recessed port?
Re:Framework Laptops are now Thunderbolt 4 certified by yurishimo on Monday November 07, 2022 @05:28PM (#33513464)
Or use the included USB-C card and plug your dongle into that.
Re:Framework Laptops are now Thunderbolt 4 certified by ghshephard on Monday November 07, 2022 @04:50PM (#33513044)
If you want to continue working with USB-C you have the freedom to install a USB-C module, so I'm not sure what new problem you are identifying here. But, if you know ahead of time precisely what modules you need, you no longer have to have them dangling from your laptop.

I'm trying to conceive of what other possible solution there could be?

Re:Framework Laptops are now Thunderbolt 4 certified by 2muchcoffeeman on Monday November 07, 2022 @07:32PM (#33514540)
It’s a cutting off your nose to spite your face comment.

Is there even such a thing as a standard dongle? Pretty sure there isn’t. And as you say you can just use the USBC module and continue using your USBC dongle. I bet you could even 3D print an enclosure to make sure that your existing dongle fits nicely into the module port so you don’t need the module.

Re:Framework Laptops are now Thunderbolt 4 certified by OJFord on Tuesday November 08, 2022 @05:09AM (#33517687)
You can still do that?

And I don't think of or treat them like dongles - I don't carry spares around, I just have the configuration that makes sense for me. (I don't even have spares to change it, but with a holiday coming up I did think I'd swap one for an SD card reader if I had one.)