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Re:Tim Berners-Lee: ‘Web3 is not the web at all’ by ryan29 on Friday November 04, 2022 @10:25PM (#33477164)
You could look at Chia. I don't think the base project with the typical token scheme is worth anything, but the way it uses disk space for mining is kind of neat.

The general idea is that you precompute a bunch of proofs and store them on disk. Challenges are issued and if you have a matching proof, you can claim the token for that challenge.

The part that I find interesting isn't the tokens. It's the concept that an algorithm can prove you've committed some disk space to the network. The reason I find it interesting is because, for small amounts of disk space, the incremental cost of participation is $0. If I plot proofs on unused disk space and only try to match proofs when my computer is on anyway, it basically costs me nothing.

Compare that to someone trying to farm (aka mine) on an industrial scale and they have a real, non-zero cost starting with the first byte of storage they buy. I find it interesting because it's different than normal economies of scale where a large operator eventually outperforms all the small operators (economically).

Unmatched, but valid proofs, are a byproduct of mining the tokens and those are what proves you have some idle capacity. Since normal PC owners pretty much have to buy excess capacity for something like a hard disk, participating in a system like that doesn't have much downside. It's that byproduct that I think is interesting.

I'm not sure if there are any pragmatic use cases, since the 500GB of free space a normal user has might not exceed the value of pretending to be a real person, but being able to say "I have $50 of idle capacity and I can prove it" could be a novel way to combat large scale networks of bots and bad actors.

Re:Tim Berners-Lee: ‘Web3 is not the web at all’ by meesterdude on Friday November 04, 2022 @11:07PM (#33477427)
chia is a terrible idea. investment wise, and also tech. Great theory, but a miss in execution.

- ex chia farmer

Re:Tim Berners-Lee: ‘Web3 is not the web at all’ by ikt on Friday November 04, 2022 @11:49PM (#33477733)
this comment does nothing for me, it's like saying the internet is a terrible idea and then no explanation why you think so.
Re:Tim Berners-Lee: ‘Web3 is not the web at all’ by paledot on Friday November 04, 2022 @11:31PM (#33477587)
I'm still missing where this model achieves anything relatable to the real world beyond "less destructive than BitCoin", which honestly is a pretty compelling value proposition.
Re:Tim Berners-Lee: ‘Web3 is not the web at all’ by kyleee on Saturday November 05, 2022 @01:53AM (#33478381)
part of the reality is that it's an open question. interesting things may pan out, or may not, as with other innovation / R&D efforts
Re:Tim Berners-Lee: ‘Web3 is not the web at all’ by Nursie on Saturday November 05, 2022 @12:26AM (#33477957)
Proving you’ve committed disk space is every bit as wasteful as PoW, it gives a financial incentive to manufacture more, pushing up the associated waste and prices for people wanting to actually use storage.

It’s a horrible set of ideas.