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Re:Twitter’s mass layoffs have begun by devwastaken on Friday November 04, 2022 @10:21AM (#33467139)
I saw the opposite. "Experts" being totally wrong and fear mongering without evidence. It was rural governments that said "prove it".

Recall how various studies on covid lethality, vaccination and masks were wildly different. The Israel study is a quick one. This is exactly what happened when influenza was new in the 1920's.

Yet the "experts" made it sound like everyone is going to die if you are not wearing a mask 24/7 and isolating. This is what "do no harm" ideology becomes - causing mass harm to everyone to potentially protect a few.

Re:Twitter’s mass layoffs have begun by TheRealDunkirk on Friday November 04, 2022 @10:55AM (#33467769)
I see Twitter as possibly working up to the ideal of "crowd sourcing" the truth. If Musk does what he seems to be saying he will do -- and take the training wheels off the moderation, and get the government out of it -- we might be left with a system that really can sort out the truth from fiction. Or, at least, present both sides, and let people decide for themselves, without hiding one side.
Re:Twitter’s mass layoffs have begun by nomel on Friday November 04, 2022 @05:26PM (#33474013)
> is working up to the ideal of "crowd sourcing" the truth

I think the current implementation of Twitter, with its short messages, is especially bad at nuance, which is pretty critical for working the actual truth.

But, ignoring the current state, I wonder how the truth sorting system could be implemented. It would fundamentally have to ignore emotion and tribalism, so voting is out. It would have to be evidence based, so the concept of a "trusted" sources would probably be required, which seems like a circular requirement.

> Or, at least, present both sides

Maybe the bubbles could be popped by allowing "counter tweets", which could be presented along with the original, one for each "combating" perspective. How would the counter tweets be crafted though? Surely not one person. Maybe a mix of tweets? How are those tweets selected? What happens when the two "agreed upon" perspective are actually incorrect, and a third, nuanced, point is the actual truth?

Re:Twitter’s mass layoffs have begun by nikau on Friday November 04, 2022 @11:53PM (#33477756)
I'm sure it will be just as successful as the voat platform was.
Re:Twitter’s mass layoffs have begun by goldenchrome on Friday November 04, 2022 @10:56AM (#33467786)
Absolutely based. There are more morale virtues than just “prevent harm”.
Re:Twitter’s mass layoffs have begun by systemvoltage on Friday November 04, 2022 @11:31AM (#33468370)
What you’re witnessing on HN and elsewhere is politics masquerading as objective and ostensibly, a thoughtful discourse.

None of the articles on HN have much of good faith discussion. I just see it as “progressives are pissed because their platform of power is being seized”. A lot of that relied on platform censorship on places like Twitter.

Just now, the WhiteHouse account is being fact checked. That doesn’t sit well with progressives.

Re:Twitter’s mass layoffs have begun by cronix on Friday November 04, 2022 @12:12PM (#33469078)
> Just now, the WhiteHouse account is being fact checked. That doesn’t sit well with progressives.

And the WH deleted some of those tweets after being fact checked.

White House Deletes Misleading Tweet Giving Biden Credit For Social Security Check Raise:

https://www.forbes.com/sites/nicholasreimann/2022/11/02/whit...

Re:Twitter’s mass layoffs have begun by systemvoltage on Friday November 04, 2022 @12:19PM (#33469200)
Isn't White House supposed to keep records? They are not supposed to delete stuff.

The white house press releases have been a total disaster. I thought we had it bad in the previous admin. Lies after lies told to American public. Much of this stuff goes unchallenged on all social media.

Re:Twitter’s mass layoffs have begun by sophacles on Friday November 04, 2022 @12:37PM (#33469547)
If you believe "influenza was new in the 1920's", you have bigger things to worry about than this discussion. I suggest going to check on the paperwork for that bridge you bought.
Re:Twitter’s mass layoffs have begun by andrei_says_ on Friday November 04, 2022 @01:26PM (#33470442)
Maybe we have different definitions for “expert”?

I’ve been following epidemiology experts and no one implied “everyone dying”, nor recommended “24/7” mask wearing (rather cited lowered transmission rates) and yes isolation lowered transmission rates too.

The flak they had to take for inconveniencing the lifestyle of people in the interest of prioritizing health outcomes for all, is insane.

If anything, we learned that the thought of care for others at a small cost to the self is extremely triggering for many Americans and is easily politicized as a wedge issue to influence voting.

Re:Twitter’s mass layoffs have begun by rdtwo on Friday November 04, 2022 @05:46PM (#33474279)
Agreed , the experts showed us that a minor lifestyle change can significantly reduce covid transmission. Instead we as a country did all the wrong things and blamed experts when government officials failed by instituting random non evidence based policies