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Re:Ex-Reddit CEO on Twitter moderation by ItsBob on Thursday November 03, 2022 @09:34AM (#33450707)
Here's a radical idea: let me moderate my own shit!

Twitter is a subscription-based system (by this, I mean that I have to subscribe to someone's content) so if I subscribe to someone and don't like what they say then buh-bye!

Let me right click on a comment/tweet (I don't use social media so not sure of the exact terminology the kids use these days) with the options of:

- Hide this comment

- Hide all comments in this thread from <name>

- Block all comments in future from <name> (you can undo this in settings).

That would work for me.

Re:Ex-Reddit CEO on Twitter moderation by threeseed on Thursday November 03, 2022 @09:56AM (#33451035)
You're not Twitter's customer. Advertisers are.

And they don't want their brands to be associated with unpleasant content.

Re:Ex-Reddit CEO on Twitter moderation by Spivak on Thursday November 03, 2022 @01:34PM (#33454518)
Like I can't believe that this reasoning doesn't resonate with people even outside of advertisers. Who wants to be on a social network where if one of your posts breaks containment you spend the next few weeks getting harassed by people who just hurl slurs and insults at you. This is already right now a problem on Twitter and opening the floodgates is the opposite of helping.
Re:Ex-Reddit CEO on Twitter moderation by etchalon on Thursday November 03, 2022 @02:27PM (#33455268)
This reasoning is generally lost on people whom are generally not a target for slurs and harassment.
Re:Ex-Reddit CEO on Twitter moderation by jsemrau on Wednesday November 09, 2022 @11:58PM (#33542417)
Well, my experience is that I post something or reply to someone that I don't get any feedback, so how could I ?
Re:Ex-Reddit CEO on Twitter moderation by tick_tock_tick on Thursday November 03, 2022 @03:42PM (#33456374)
> few weeks getting harassed by people who just hurl slurs and insults at you

Just ignore it or block them. The only time it's an issue is when you engage. Seriously the only people with this issue can't let shit go.

Re:Ex-Reddit CEO on Twitter moderation by fzeroracer on Thursday November 03, 2022 @04:32PM (#33457097)
I feel like you don't understand the issue here at all.

Blocking them requires first engaging with their content. This is what people always miss in the discussion. To know if you need to block someone or not involves parsing their comment and then throwing it in the bin.

The same goes for ignoring it. And eventually people get tired of the barrage of slurs and just leave because the brainpower required to sift through garbage isn't worth it anymore. That's how you end up with places like Voat.

Re:Ex-Reddit CEO on Twitter moderation by lettergram on Thursday November 03, 2022 @02:44PM (#33455505)
People producing products don’t actually care. I’d love to see stats on this made public (I’ve seen internal metrics). Facebook and Twitter don’t even show you what your ad is near. You fundamentally just have to “trust” them.

If you have a billboard with someone being raped beneath it and a photo goes viral, no one would blame the company advertising on the billboard. Frankly, no one will associate the two to change their purchasing habits.

The reason corporations care are the ESG scores and activist employees.

Also these brands still advertise in places where public executions will happen (Saudi Arabia). No one is complaining there.

Re:Ex-Reddit CEO on Twitter moderation by pfisch on Thursday November 03, 2022 @04:25PM (#33456988)
People do care. If you openly associate your brand with strong support for a pro pedophile or pro rape position customers will care about that.

The idea that they won't seems pretty ridiculous.

Re:Ex-Reddit CEO on Twitter moderation by threeseed on Thursday November 03, 2022 @06:33PM (#33458843)
> Facebook and Twitter don’t even show you what your ad is near

But their customers complain about it, media picks it up and it becomes an outrage story.

That's what brands are scared of.

Re:Ex-Reddit CEO on Twitter moderation by lettergram on Thursday November 03, 2022 @07:04PM (#33459199)
How many people complained about ads being next to BLM stuff - particularly in the NFL and NBA?

A LOT, but nothing happened.

It’s not about customers complaining.

Re:Ex-Reddit CEO on Twitter moderation by tick_tock_tick on Thursday November 03, 2022 @03:39PM (#33456327)
Most customers don't care the only reason it's a real issue is Twitter users run the marketing department at a lot of companies and they are incorrectly convinced people care.
Re:Ex-Reddit CEO on Twitter moderation by spaced-out on Thursday November 03, 2022 @04:41PM (#33457196)
>Most customers don't care

How much is "most"? What data do you have? Plus, even if ~20% of customers care and only half will boycott, that's still going to have an impact on the company's bottom line.

Re:Ex-Reddit CEO on Twitter moderation by threeseed on Thursday November 03, 2022 @06:25PM (#33458745)
> Twitter users run the marketing department

If that were the case why is Twitter ad spend in the low single digits for most companies.

Re:Ex-Reddit CEO on Twitter moderation by q1w2 on Thursday November 03, 2022 @05:30PM (#33457963)
To quote the article...

> MAYBE sometimes an advertiser will get mad, but a backroom sales conversation will usually get them back once the whole thing blows over.

Re:Ex-Reddit CEO on Twitter moderation by pjc50 on Thursday November 03, 2022 @10:26AM (#33451504)
> - Block all comments in future from <name> (you can undo this in settings).

This is what the existing block feature does?

Re:Ex-Reddit CEO on Twitter moderation by dbbk on Thursday November 03, 2022 @11:19AM (#33452375)
This exists.
Re:Ex-Reddit CEO on Twitter moderation by spaced-out on Thursday November 03, 2022 @02:26PM (#33455252)
Maybe you might like that, but I personally don't want to wade through dozens of "MAKE BIG $$$$ WORKING FROM HOME!!!" every morning on my feed.
Re:Ex-Reddit CEO on Twitter moderation by int_19h on Thursday November 03, 2022 @04:11PM (#33456807)
This is solved by allowing people to "hire" others as their moderators.
Re:Ex-Reddit CEO on Twitter moderation by tedunangst on Thursday November 03, 2022 @04:39PM (#33457169)
Why can't I "hire" (join) a social network that preemptively mods according to my preferences?
Re:Ex-Reddit CEO on Twitter moderation by int_19h on Thursday November 03, 2022 @04:44PM (#33457233)
Because there are too few, due to market dominance of existing players?
Re:Ex-Reddit CEO on Twitter moderation by jsemrau on Wednesday November 09, 2022 @02:29AM (#33528435)
I am working on finclout which does this.
Re:Ex-Reddit CEO on Twitter moderation by AceJohnny2 on Thursday November 03, 2022 @04:11PM (#33456805)
You've never been targeted for harassment, obviously.

Blocking a comment, or even blocking a user for a comment is useless on platforms that allow free and endless user accounts.

Mail spam/scam folders of everyone's email accounts are proof that "let me moderate it myself" does not work for the majority of people.

And remember "It is harder to police bad behavior than it is to automate it."

Re:Ex-Reddit CEO on Twitter moderation by commandlinefan on Thursday November 03, 2022 @05:41PM (#33458126)
> let me moderate it myself

More like "let us moderate it ourselves". Reddit users already do this - there are extensions you can install that allow you to subscribe to another group of user's ban list. So you find a "hivemind" that you mostly agree with, join their collective moderation, and allow that to customize the content you like. The beauty is that you get to pick the group you find most reasonable.

Re:Ex-Reddit CEO on Twitter moderation by AhmedF on Thursday November 03, 2022 @05:06PM (#33457567)
Try moderating 100+ hateful messages an hour.