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Re:Elon Musk to Cut Half of Twitter Jobs to Cut Costs on Friday by mikkergp on Wednesday November 02, 2022 @09:02PM (#33445258)
Elon and the 50 super engineers from Tesla are going to sleep at the office until it’s fixed
Re:Elon Musk to Cut Half of Twitter Jobs to Cut Costs on Friday by dragontamer on Wednesday November 02, 2022 @09:47PM (#33445736)
I've heard rumors that Tesla engineers are Python while Twitter engineers are Scala.

Is this true? If so, what could 50 Tesla engineers do?

Re:Elon Musk to Cut Half of Twitter Jobs to Cut Costs on Friday by mapme on Wednesday November 02, 2022 @09:57PM (#33445841)
Nothing, because they don’t understand RecSys which is half of ML at social media companies. Probably could help with prediction for ads but the domains are very different.
Re:Elon Musk to Cut Half of Twitter Jobs to Cut Costs on Friday by shaburn on Wednesday November 02, 2022 @11:41PM (#33446713)
Ad targeting at Twitter has always been shit. Also effectively deprecated. Best starting from scratch.
Re:Elon Musk to Cut Half of Twitter Jobs to Cut Costs on Friday by zabzonk on Wednesday November 02, 2022 @10:06PM (#33445942)
well, not design a self-driving car, for starters
Re:Elon Musk to Cut Half of Twitter Jobs to Cut Costs on Friday by renewedrebecca on Wednesday November 02, 2022 @10:09PM (#33445981)
harsh, but fair.
Re:Elon Musk to Cut Half of Twitter Jobs to Cut Costs on Friday by sshine on Thursday November 03, 2022 @04:02AM (#33448241)
Hey, trolley problems are open-ended!
Re:Elon Musk to Cut Half of Twitter Jobs to Cut Costs on Friday by Schweigi on Wednesday November 02, 2022 @10:10PM (#33445993)
They obviously rewrite Twitter back to Python! Afterall, this shouldn’t take them more than a Sunday afternoon - or at least that’s what Elon gave them as the deadline.
Re:Elon Musk to Cut Half of Twitter Jobs to Cut Costs on Friday by threeseed on Wednesday November 02, 2022 @11:32PM (#33446647)
Python is significantly slower than Scala.

But I guess with all of the users leaving it should balance out.

Re:Elon Musk to Cut Half of Twitter Jobs to Cut Costs on Friday by shaburn on Wednesday November 02, 2022 @11:42PM (#33446724)
3.11 is pretty fast. Probably roll with rust over scala.
Re:Elon Musk to Cut Half of Twitter Jobs to Cut Costs on Friday by whateveracct on Wednesday November 02, 2022 @10:02PM (#33445897)
Wouldn't be surprised if a mass rewrite happens just for the control it brings.
Re:Elon Musk to Cut Half of Twitter Jobs to Cut Costs on Friday by sanderjd on Thursday November 03, 2022 @12:32AM (#33447019)
That's exactly what I think is going to happen: A giant rewrite with half the staff, overworking to burnout, cratering morale, and a struggle to hire. In short, a disaster.

But if that doesn't happen, well, it will be interesting to see how it goes...

Re:Elon Musk to Cut Half of Twitter Jobs to Cut Costs on Friday by John23832 on Wednesday November 02, 2022 @09:51PM (#33445770)
It was a joke bro.
Re:Elon Musk to Cut Half of Twitter Jobs to Cut Costs on Friday by dragontamer on Thursday November 03, 2022 @10:13AM (#33451294)
But ~50 Tesla engineers being pilfered using public funds to try and help Twitter is obviously happening right now.

I agree this is a joke, but maybe not the kind you were looking for. Is Twitter even paying for this? And if so, who would think that Twitter could possibly benefit from a bunch of programmers who don't even know the codebase?

Re:Elon Musk to Cut Half of Twitter Jobs to Cut Costs on Friday by AnimalMuppet on Thursday November 03, 2022 @01:25PM (#33454358)
> using public funds

Wait, what? How are Tesla engineers being publicly funded?

Re:Elon Musk to Cut Half of Twitter Jobs to Cut Costs on Friday by dragontamer on Thursday November 03, 2022 @02:29PM (#33455284)
> Wait, what? How are Tesla engineers being publicly funded?

Tesla is a public company. Every year, they go back to their shareholders for another secondary offering, asking for more money. In exchange for this money, Tesla (the company) gives these tokens (aka: Stocks) out.

These stocks represent the public's interest in TSLA. Every TSLA shareholder is the true and legitimate owner of the company. TSLA shareholders likely shouldn't be happy with Elon Musk using their money to fund his private Twitter shenanigans.

Its definitely embezzlement as it is. The question is if TSLA shareholders care enough to sue. They probably don't care. So I don't expect anything to happen.

As long as there are stocks out there (IE: As long as there are public stocks in existence), the CEO + Board has a fiduciary duty to do what is best for the company. We're witnessing a clear and evidence destruction of that relationship, as TSLA engineers seemingly work for Twitter.

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Legally, and more importantly _morally_ speaking, if Elon Musk really wants to do this, he should take TSLA private so that his public shareholders don't get defrauded / embezzled throughout the venture.

Not that I think the typical political environment has enough people caring. But if TSLA starts to have money issues, people will ask questions a few months from now (IE: No one cares about embezzlement as long as times are good. People only really care about such theft when the money seemingly disappears. Its just human nature unfortunately)

Re:Elon Musk to Cut Half of Twitter Jobs to Cut Costs on Friday by AnimalMuppet on Thursday November 03, 2022 @03:47PM (#33456451)
Ah, I see. I read that as "public" in the sense of "government".
Re:Elon Musk to Cut Half of Twitter Jobs to Cut Costs on Friday by Turing_Machine on Thursday November 03, 2022 @05:21PM (#33457810)
How do you know that the Tesla engineers aren't being billed to Twitter?

I'd be very surprised if they weren't, frankly.

Contracting your employees out to a different company is not "embezzlement".

Re:Elon Musk to Cut Half of Twitter Jobs to Cut Costs on Friday by dragontamer on Thursday November 03, 2022 @05:42PM (#33458143)
I do believe my quote is:

> Is Twitter even paying for this? And if so, who would think that Twitter could possibly benefit from a bunch of programmers who don't even know the codebase?

Re:Elon Musk to Cut Half of Twitter Jobs to Cut Costs on Friday by Turing_Machine on Thursday November 03, 2022 @08:19PM (#33459957)
Then you went from there to "Its definitely embezzlement as it is."
Re:Elon Musk to Cut Half of Twitter Jobs to Cut Costs on Friday by ardfard on Wednesday November 02, 2022 @11:31PM (#33446640)
From the job posting, it seems Tesla is using some Scala too.
Re:Elon Musk to Cut Half of Twitter Jobs to Cut Costs on Friday by threeseed on Wednesday November 02, 2022 @11:31PM (#33446643)
Twitter definitely uses Scala in many of their core services.

https://github.com/twitter

Finagle and Scalding are particularly well done libraries.

Re:Elon Musk to Cut Half of Twitter Jobs to Cut Costs on Friday by opportune on Thursday November 03, 2022 @12:06AM (#33446855)
I’ve heard rumors that Tesla Engineers wear purple shirts and Twitter engineer tuck their green shirts in
Re:Elon Musk to Cut Half of Twitter Jobs to Cut Costs on Friday by halfmatthalfcat on Thursday November 03, 2022 @05:47PM (#33458212)
Parts of Tesla almost exclusively use Scala.
Re:Elon Musk to Cut Half of Twitter Jobs to Cut Costs on Friday by Eddy_Viscosity2 on Thursday November 03, 2022 @08:20AM (#33449897)
Wait a second, everything I see about Elon online says that he alone is the super genius who invented electric cars and space travel. The engineers who work at those companies are just assistants; people to massage his shoulders as he tackles the next impossible technical problem himself.
Re:Elon Musk to Cut Half of Twitter Jobs to Cut Costs on Friday by mikkergp on Thursday November 03, 2022 @08:08PM (#33459843)
Exactly, the 50 super engineers will stand behind Elon as he executes and engineers and allll the e's.