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Re:The first minute of every phone call is torture now by ahelwer on Wednesday November 02, 2022 @12:56PM (#33439016)
This has reached new heights when calling USCIS for immigration issues. You have to avoid certain trigger words or the callbot will shunt you into a loop that can only terminate with it sending you an email on how to do something on the website, then hanging up. If you say "operator" it will go on a spiel about how helpful it is and you should ask it a question. If you say "operator" again it will hang up on you. The only way to get to a human is to look in online forums where people share the magic phrases that get it to direct you to an operator. Most of these have followup comments saying "no longer working as of $date". The US government basically hates immigrants or anyone trying to help immigrants and is happy to make things as aggressively unpleasant as possible for them. It isn't a bug, it is intentional.
Re:The first minute of every phone call is torture now by factsarelolz on Wednesday November 02, 2022 @01:55PM (#33440156)
> The US government basically hates immigrants or anyone trying to help immigrants and is happy to make things as aggressively unpleasant as possible for them. It isn't a bug, it is intentional.

Correct. The US government hates immigrants that cause the government more work. You can easily walk across the border, be given cash, food, lodging and travel for free. Once you get to your destination you'll be helped by NGOs and social safety nets that were created for US citizens.

Why wait 7-10 years and thousands of dollars to legally immigrate when you can cut the line and get even more benefits and handouts.

Re:The first minute of every phone call is torture now by dang on Wednesday November 02, 2022 @04:03PM (#33442145)
You've unfortunately been breaking the site guidelines a lot lately. Would you please review https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html and stick to the rules?

In particular, we don't want ideological or political battle (regardless of which flavor you favor) and we don't want flamewar tangents.