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Re:Invasive Diffusion: one unwilling illustrator found her t... by paulryanrogers on Tuesday November 01, 2022 @07:11PM (#33429058)
Microsoft is selling a service to put potentially copyrighted works into ones code, stripped of and disregarding its original license.
Re:Invasive Diffusion: one unwilling illustrator found her t... by drran on Tuesday November 01, 2022 @08:16PM (#33429781)
Microsoft just calls others code as «public code». Public code is in public domain.
Re:Invasive Diffusion: one unwilling illustrator found her t... by paulryanrogers on Wednesday November 02, 2022 @09:39AM (#33435578)
Pilot is regurgitating snippets of code still under copyright and not in the public domain. Some may consider publicly available code fair use, but the fact that they're selling access for commercial use may undercut that argument.
Re:Invasive Diffusion: one unwilling illustrator found her t... by shagie on Tuesday November 01, 2022 @08:49PM (#33430039)
How is that different from a consultant who indiscriminately copies from Stack Overflow?

Tangent to that is the "who gets sued and needs to fix it when a code audit is done?"

Ultimately, the question is then "who is responsible for verifying that the code submitted to production isn't copying from sources that have incompatible licensing?"

Re:Invasive Diffusion: one unwilling illustrator found her t... by chii on Tuesday November 01, 2022 @09:17PM (#33430253)
> How is that different from a consultant who indiscriminately copies from Stack Overflow?

and how is that different from a student learning how to code off stackoverflow (or anywhere else for that matter), then reproducing some snippets/learnt code structure, in their employment?

Re:Invasive Diffusion: one unwilling illustrator found her t... by shagie on Tuesday November 01, 2022 @09:34PM (#33430412)
That's also an excellent example.

Or a random employee copies some art work that is then published ( https://arstechnica.com/tech-policy/2018/07/post-office-owes... ). You will note all the people that didn't get in trouble there - neither the photographer who created the image, nor Getty in making it available, nor the random employee who used it without checking its provenance.

In all of these cases, it is (or would be) the organization that published the copyrighted work without doing the appropriate diligence on checking what it is, if it would be useable, and how it should be licensed.

> The Post Office says it has new procedures in place to make sure that it doesn't make a mistake like this again.

... which is what companies who make use of AI models for generating content (be it art or code) should be doing to ensure that they're not accidentally infringing on existing copyrighted works.

Re:Invasive Diffusion: one unwilling illustrator found her t... by paulryanrogers on Tuesday November 01, 2022 @11:33PM (#33431152)
The consultants would have to knowingly copy from somewhere. One can hope they're educated on licensing, at least if they expect to get paid.

If Microsoft is so confident in Pilot doing sufficient remixing then why not train it on their own internal code? And why put the burden of IP vetting on clients who have less info than Pilot?