Re:Nushell: Introduction to a New Kind of Shell
by nextaccountic on Tuesday November 01, 2022 @11:34PM
(#33431160)
Well I actually use zsh (I always mean to switch to oil though), and.. in zsh, you don't need to quote variables? Are you sure?
Oh.. I just tested here. It works!
$ mkdir -p /q/a\ b/x
$ a="a b"
$ ls /q/$a
x
And in bash: $ a="a b"
$ ls /q/$a
ls: cannot access '/q/a': No such file or directory
ls: cannot access 'b': No such file or directory
The weird thing is, my shell is zsh but my shell scrip ts are all either #!/bin/bash or straight #!/bin/sh, so I never took advantage of thisAnyway, I want to link also to
http://www.oilshell.org/release/latest/doc/upgrade-breakage....
http://www.oilshell.org/release/latest/doc/warts.html
http://www.oilshell.org/release/latest/doc/known-differences... <- here it talks about zsh a bit
Re:Nushell: Introduction to a New Kind of Shell
by nerdponx on Wednesday November 02, 2022 @02:15AM
(#33431940)
The only thing to keep in mind about Zsh parameter expansion is that unquoted empty values will be dropped entirely, while quoted empty values will be treated like the empty string '':
show_nargs() { print $# }
q=
show_nargs $q # 0
show_nargs "$q" # 1
So it doesn't completely solve the need for defensive quoting, but at least it mitigates the need for the most part.
Re:Nushell: Introduction to a New Kind of Shell
by BoppreH on Wednesday November 02, 2022 @01:30PM
(#33439687)
Ouch, that is a sharp corner:
$ echo 'aaa' > a.txt
$ echo 'bbb' > b.txt
$ TMP="" # Mistake! Missing arg, failed search, typo'd name, etc.
$ cp a.txt b.txt $TMP
$ cat b.txt
aaa
$ # The contents of b.txt are lost.
Re:Nushell: Introduction to a New Kind of Shell
by nextaccountic on Wednesday November 02, 2022 @02:13PM
(#33440442)
cp itself should have been two commands, or at least accept two flags for those two very different semantics.
Actually there's a wave of unixy tools being written in Go and Rust and I think there might be a suitable cp replacement already, but it's up to distros to package it.
Or is it like Neovim vs. Emacs at that point, where neither one is "better" and it's just a matter of taste and/or whichever one you happened to try first?