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Re:Electric scooter ban increased congestion by 10% in Atlanta by insanitybit on Monday October 31, 2022 @01:22PM (#33409194)
Shifting a large city away from having a lot of car infrastructure sounds extraordinarily complex, expensive, and time consuming. I would potentially support it, but surely scooters are cheaper and quicker to implement.
Re:Electric scooter ban increased congestion by 10% in Atlanta by parineum on Monday October 31, 2022 @01:27PM (#33409306)
> extraordinarily complex, expensive, and time consuming

Remove all zoning laws and it takes care of itself over time. Zoning is always "keep [thing people want] away from [place where people want it]".

All that accomplishes is putting services that people want further away from them.

Re:Electric scooter ban increased congestion by 10% in Atlanta by lm28469 on Monday October 31, 2022 @01:25PM (#33409267)
Sure but one is a step in the right direction while the other adds a pile of shit on top of the existing pile of shit

It's like hotfixing a completely broken pile of spaghetti code in prod, it'll save your sunday evening but you're in for 6 months of rewrite anyways

Re:Electric scooter ban increased congestion by 10% in Atlanta by bombcar on Monday October 31, 2022 @01:43PM (#33409573)
Every single change to a city of any reasonable size is exactly that hot fix, even if it takes months or years to implement (see: Big Dig). Desiring grand unified "fix everything" projects rarely works wonders, whereas small-scope projects over time can improve things. In many suburbs just building sidewalks and bike paths would improve things tremendously.
Re:Electric scooter ban increased congestion by 10% in Atlanta by clairity on Monday October 31, 2022 @01:27PM (#33409324)
the first step, repainting lines on roads to add (ideally protected) bike/scooter lanes, is a large but imminently manageable project that can get done quickly. while that's happening, you direct various to favor bike/scooter parking over cars, perhaps introducing necessary legislation to that effect. the harder and longer changes are removing/reducing over-zealous zoning, deceptive environmental lawsuits, and overly-specified building codes. it won't happen in a few months, but a lot can happen in a few years for a motivated electorate.
Re:Electric scooter ban increased congestion by 10% in Atlanta by the_snooze on Monday October 31, 2022 @01:33PM (#33409425)
>ideally protected

Very much the ideal. Unprotected bike lanes end up as parking for gig workers way too often.

Re:Electric scooter ban increased congestion by 10% in Atlanta by bombcar on Monday October 31, 2022 @01:41PM (#33409547)
There are ways to fix that, too, if we really wanted to.

For example, make it fully legal to do whatsoever you want to an unmanned non-emergency vehicle parked blocking a bike lane. Very soon an industry of car-destroyers would pop up producing amusing videos for everyone to watch.