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Re:The Restaurant Industry’s Worst Idea: QR Code Menus by NotYourLawyer on Sunday October 30, 2022 @08:17AM (#33393756)
> And please don't think I'm asking for American style "service" where you practically have servers begging you for tips every 2 seconds

It’s not like this at all. Servers don’t talk about tips or beg for them. You just tip at the end of the meal, whatever amount you want.

Re:The Restaurant Industry’s Worst Idea: QR Code Menus by zztop44 on Sunday October 30, 2022 @08:32AM (#33393886)
No but they do introduce themselves by name, ask you how your meal is going and check in every now and again. That’s not a bad thing, but it is different, and seems in my mind related to tipping culture.
Re:The Restaurant Industry’s Worst Idea: QR Code Menus by NotYourLawyer on Sunday October 30, 2022 @08:39AM (#33393947)
Yes, waiters wait on you.
Re:The Restaurant Industry’s Worst Idea: QR Code Menus by nicolas_t on Sunday October 30, 2022 @09:00AM (#33394112)
I hate having waiters keep pestering me every 5 minutes while I'm having a conversation with my friends but I wonder if it's as much due to the tip culture as due to the fact that it's considered impolite to wave a waiter over when you need them.
Re:The Restaurant Industry’s Worst Idea: QR Code Menus by yonaguska on Sunday October 30, 2022 @09:27AM (#33394323)
At high end restaurants with better trained wait staff- they are looking for visual cues on when to approach your table. Empty glasses, napkin on plate, menu down on table when you're ready to order, one customary check on the food shortly after it arrives, not so early that you haven't tried it though. But this is learned behavior on the part of the customer as well.

I hate that it's impolite to wave waiters over as well though. That would make the whole process a lot easier.

Re:The Restaurant Industry’s Worst Idea: QR Code Menus by c_o_n_v_e_x on Sunday October 30, 2022 @09:50PM (#33401130)
>I hate that it's impolite to wave waiters over as well though.

Depends where you are. In a lot of restaurants in Singapore, not only do you have to wave at waiters, you have to go to extremes to get their attention.

Re:The Restaurant Industry’s Worst Idea: QR Code Menus by hnews_account_1 on Sunday October 30, 2022 @09:13AM (#33394209)
Generally they check in only once a meal and in the better restaurants, they are better about when to approach your table. There is a way that the tipping system helps - my boss tips massive amounts every time we have lunch (once a week or so). Like close to 15-25%. Especially in Indian restaurants (we are both Indians in the US). But in return, he hates waiting and expects top service. At least since I joined his team, we have gone to one new restaurant that opened up where he got pissed at the service and made them hurry up and serve our table better, then tipped them 22% or something cos he was like the food isn't bad so I'm coming back here and I want good service.

I, on the other hand, am content with waiting for the food if it takes too long and don't need any special service and would prefer to leave the (societally required) minimum tip of 10%.

Re:The Restaurant Industry’s Worst Idea: QR Code Menus by mercutio2 on Sunday October 30, 2022 @11:02AM (#33395032)
15% is the socially required minimum tip in the USA. The signal sent by 10% is “I want to insult you by implying that I know tipping is required, but I’m going to make the tip so small you will know I didn’t like you”.

Tipping is a terrible system I would prefer we dispensed with, but abusing the very poorly paid people enmeshed in the system is unkind, if you can afford to eat in US restaurants.

Re:The Restaurant Industry’s Worst Idea: QR Code Menus by hnews_account_1 on Sunday October 30, 2022 @10:20PM (#33401347)
May be true elsewhere but not in New York. I can play off the uninitiated immigrant card. The system is bad but that doesn't mean I comply with it. I know one of the consequences of my action is a poorly paid wait staff. But it is the right game theoretic move at scale. If everyone did it, we could shame restaurants into charging higher food prices and paying their staff more money in a fixed amount.

All this is beside the point that I don't eat outside in general. I prefer take out so I tip only rarely.

Re:The Restaurant Industry’s Worst Idea: QR Code Menus by Georgelemental on Sunday October 30, 2022 @10:20PM (#33401344)
American restaurant servers definitely have a habit of interrupting your meal, compared to France at least
Re:The Restaurant Industry’s Worst Idea: QR Code Menus by wdb on Monday October 31, 2022 @09:56AM (#33405738)
And they run you down the street when you forgot to tip. This was such a bad experience when I went to NYC.