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Re:Tesla engineers were on-site to evaluate the Twitter staf... by blindriver on Sunday October 30, 2022 @12:22AM (#33391046)
Twitter is a private company now. There are no more stocks to vest, so the idea that this is to dodge vesting schedules doesn't make any sense whatsoever.
Re:Tesla engineers were on-site to evaluate the Twitter staf... by cookingrobot on Sunday October 30, 2022 @12:27AM (#33391079)
According to blind, vesting schedules are converted to cash grants on the same schedule.

So essentially there is still vesting, and no acceleration for regular employees.

Curious to hear if anyone knows otherwise.

https://www.teamblind.com/post/Twitter-Accelerated-Vesting-L...

Re:Tesla engineers were on-site to evaluate the Twitter staf... by MrMan on Sunday October 30, 2022 @01:03PM (#33396229)
another reason I think taking twitter private immediately was a wide choice
Re:Tesla engineers were on-site to evaluate the Twitter staf... by hamandcheese on Sunday October 30, 2022 @07:40PM (#33400242)
Yes, according to those I know at twitter this is the case.
Re:Tesla engineers were on-site to evaluate the Twitter staf... by kalabilla on Sunday October 30, 2022 @12:24AM (#33391057)
Private companies have stocks. They are just on traded on exchange
Re:Tesla engineers were on-site to evaluate the Twitter staf... by djbusby on Sunday October 30, 2022 @01:08AM (#33391286)
I think you have a typo.
Re:Tesla engineers were on-site to evaluate the Twitter staf... by shapefrog on Sunday October 30, 2022 @03:58AM (#33392219)
The technical term is stonks
Re:Tesla engineers were on-site to evaluate the Twitter staf... by jzl on Sunday October 30, 2022 @11:52AM (#33395506)
I blame all typos nowadays on the sorry state of autocorrect on phones. Nine out ten “typos” from me are bad autocorrects that I missed.
Re:Tesla engineers were on-site to evaluate the Twitter staf... by blindriver on Sunday October 30, 2022 @06:27PM (#33399600)
Not Twitter. They all got bought on Friday by Elon. There's no way they would have time to create the necessary legal structure by Tuesday to be able to allocate shares and even to give them to employees.
Re:Tesla engineers were on-site to evaluate the Twitter staf... by kweingar on Sunday October 30, 2022 @12:48AM (#33391189)
Until recently I worked at a private company with a stock vesting plan.
Re:Tesla engineers were on-site to evaluate the Twitter staf... by blindriver on Sunday October 30, 2022 @06:28PM (#33399610)
Completely irrelevant. Twitter just got bought. There are no shares anymore and Twitter hasn't had time to go through the process to create and distribute them.
Re:Tesla engineers were on-site to evaluate the Twitter staf... by kweingar on Sunday October 30, 2022 @07:34PM (#33400191)
That’s true. Maybe I misread your comment, but it sounded like you were saying that the reason there cannot be stock grants is because Twitter is private. The reason that there cannot be stock grants is because Elon happens to own all the shares, not because Twitter is private.
Re:Tesla engineers were on-site to evaluate the Twitter staf... by HWR_14 on Sunday October 30, 2022 @12:55AM (#33391224)
The employees are vesting the cashed out value (at $54.20/share) of whatever stock they were vesting as of when the deal closed.

Although SpaceX apparently has vesting stock in a way that keeps the company private. Some of the text messages Elon sent that were published alluded to that.

Re:Tesla engineers were on-site to evaluate the Twitter staf... by adastra22 on Sunday October 30, 2022 @02:50AM (#33391864)
The company just buys back the shares. It’s essentially a cash bonus.
Re:Tesla engineers were on-site to evaluate the Twitter staf... by sjg1729 on Sunday October 30, 2022 @03:37AM (#33392097)
It’s not mandatory, spacex employees can keep their shares in hope of an eventual IPO
Re:Tesla engineers were on-site to evaluate the Twitter staf... by HWR_14 on Sunday October 30, 2022 @03:07AM (#33391949)
For SpaceX? I knew the company offered to buy back the shares at regular intervals. I am disappointed to learn they are mandatory.
Re:Tesla engineers were on-site to evaluate the Twitter staf... by adastra22 on Sunday October 30, 2022 @05:48AM (#33392859)
I didn't mean to imply that. I think you can keep the shares.

But there are limits to how many non-insider (e.g. former employees), non-accredited investors a company can have before it is required to go public. For this reason a lot of companies do try to make it mandatory and/or offer sweet deals to buy the shares back upon leaving the company.

Re:Tesla engineers were on-site to evaluate the Twitter staf... by HWR_14 on Sunday October 30, 2022 @02:12PM (#33397024)
> there are limits to how many non-insider (e.g. former employees), non-accredited investors a company can have before it is required to go public.

I thought that limit was some trivial number. I thought the much larger number (2,000 IIRC) was made up of investors who were either insiders or accredited investors.

Re:Tesla engineers were on-site to evaluate the Twitter staf... by adastra22 on Monday October 31, 2022 @01:46PM (#33409631)
500. Although I thought the JOBS act increased that number to 2500, but my google-fu is failing me. In any case, once you have that many shareholders on record, you HAVE to go public. This is what forced Google and Facebook to eventually go public.

Companies often get around this by not doing everything possible to prevent an employee from becoming a shareholder on record. E.g. settling option contracts for cash.

Re:Tesla engineers were on-site to evaluate the Twitter staf... by jxf on Sunday October 30, 2022 @02:11AM (#33391647)
This doesn't make sense. There are certainly options and stock to vest; every pre-IPO startup employee in the world knows about the four-year vesting schedule.
Re:Tesla engineers were on-site to evaluate the Twitter staf... by blindriver on Sunday October 30, 2022 @06:28PM (#33399621)
It makes total sense. Twitter was just bought on Friday. All existing shares are now owned by Elon. There are no private shares of Twitter yet, and it won't be ready to distribute by Nov 1, which is Tuesday.