Re:The Babylon Bee's Twitter account is no longer suspended
by Shared404 on Saturday October 29, 2022 @10:37AM
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You are aware that trans individuals have been part of the LGBT movement feom the beginning, even back before AIDS when it was the GLBT movement, right?
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Re:The Babylon Bee's Twitter account is no longer suspended
by socialismisok on Saturday October 29, 2022 @03:38PM
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Yeah, fuck, Stonewall was instigated by trans women, lesbians, and eventually gay men fighting back against oppression together. The Ball scene has always had a trans component.
To say that gender issues are piggybacking on homosexual issues is revisionism, full stop.
Re:The Babylon Bee's Twitter account is no longer suspended
by oska on Saturday October 29, 2022 @04:13PM
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I didn't say anything about your so-called 'LGBT movement'. I talked about 'the struggles that same sex attracted people have faced', struggles that span millennia and cultures. Your so-called 'LGBT movement' is highly western culture oriented (particularly US American / New York culture, see the other commenter's reference to Stonewall), recent and ideologically constructed. That is very different to my formulation, which is non-ideological, non-identitarian and consequently universally inclusive (for all same sex attracted people).
Re:The Babylon Bee's Twitter account is no longer suspended
by Shared404 on Saturday October 29, 2022 @04:44PM
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https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Transgender_history
Trans people have spanned history, and much like people who experience same-sex attraction have experienced a variety of acceptance and rejection based on the culture at the time.
In what way is this piggy backing? In addition, as far as western contexts pre-GLBT, both transgender and same sex attracted people have been related since pre-nazi Germany and both were persecuted by the Nazis (to be clear, this is not an invitation to invoke Godwin's Law, nor me comparing you to a Nazi. It's just an example of a case where gay and trans individuals have been joined together).
E: Fixed spelling and expanded second paragraph.