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Re:Elon Musk owns Twitter: The story so far by addaon on Friday October 28, 2022 @04:27PM (#33377430)
Accessing tweets does not seem to require agreeing to any Twitter TOS. They have the option to not serve data to your client (browser), but once they've chosen to, there doesn't seem to be any agreement that would restrict your right to screenshot. Republishing those screenshots could run afoul of copyright restrictions, but no more so than embedding currently does.
Re:Elon Musk owns Twitter: The story so far by freejazz on Friday October 28, 2022 @04:39PM (#33377619)
I've never seen TOS that don't state you agree to them by using the service...
Re:Elon Musk owns Twitter: The story so far by squeaky-clean on Friday October 28, 2022 @04:49PM (#33377765)
You can visit Twitter (logged out) and see tweets without ever having agreed to or being shown the TOS. After viewing 5 or so they put up a big "Please Register" popup that cannot be closed, but if you clear your cookies you're good again.
Re:Elon Musk owns Twitter: The story so far by addaon on Friday October 28, 2022 @05:07PM (#33377936)
Go to a direct link to a tweet from an anonymous browser.

Until a court case says that the act of receiving bytes from an HTTP server constitutes agreement to a contract that was never even presented to you, it's hard to see how you can possibly have agreed to a TOS. The user must be presented with a TOS and have the option to reject it in order to have agreed to it.

Re:Elon Musk owns Twitter: The story so far by freejazz on Friday October 28, 2022 @05:15PM (#33378015)
You agree to using the TOS by accessing the service, have you seen a case not enforcing that paradigm?
Re:Elon Musk owns Twitter: The story so far by GabrielTFS on Friday October 28, 2022 @05:52PM (#33378413)
In Specht v. Netscape, the court declined to hold Netscape’s browsewrap (i.e. "putting a link to the ToS somewhere in the web page") enforceable because the hyperlink’s placement at the bottom of the screen failed to put users on notice of Netscape’s terms.

In Hines v. Overstock.com, the court found Overstock.com’s browsewrap unenforceable because the website failed to prominently display the link to the online agreement in a way that would put users on notice of the website’s terms and conditions.

And if you think it's all because "you have to scroll to see the hyperlink" and that Twitter's one is valid because there's always a "Terms and Services" hyperlink in small text on the screen at all times, I can tell you of Nguyen v. Barnes & Noble, in which the court held that Barnes & Noble’s browsewrap was unenforceable despite the fact that the hyperlink was prominently placed next to the buttons users must click in order to complete online purchases.

Van Tassell v. United Marketing Group also states:

> Because no affirmative action is required by the website user to agree to the terms of a contract other than his or her use of the website, the determination of the validity of a browsewrap contract depends on whether the user has actual or constructive knowledge of a website's terms and conditions.

In other words, w.r.t. the enforceability of Twitter's ToS on users that have never agreed to it explicitly, they have the burden of proof and have to give the court convincing proof that you knew about their ToS when you broke it.

This is all based on a rather obvious common law standard:

> An offeree, regardless of apparent manifestation of his consent, is not bound by inconspicuous contractual provisions of which he is unaware, contained in a document whose contractual nature is not obvious. - Specht v. Netscape

So yes, I have seen cases not enforcing this paradigm.

Sources:

Specht v. Netscape: https://scholar.google.com/scholar_case?case=958708515918483...

Hines v. Overstock.com: https://scholar.google.com/scholar_case?case=163224540731670...

Nguyen v. Barnes & Noble: https://scholar.google.com/scholar_case?case=110038111392175...

Van Tassell v. United Marketing Group: https://scholar.google.com/scholar_case?case=174994243217056...

Re:Elon Musk owns Twitter: The story so far by MacsHeadroom on Friday October 28, 2022 @06:34PM (#33378828)
Generally all ToS and EULA that do not require an action of explicit consent (an "Agree" button or checkbox, not checked by default) are not enforceable. This is well established case law.
Re:Elon Musk owns Twitter: The story so far by insanitybit on Friday October 28, 2022 @07:48PM (#33379474)
But the BBC has a Twitter account and has accepted the ToS.
Re:Elon Musk owns Twitter: The story so far by zimpenfish on Saturday October 29, 2022 @12:01AM (#33380844)
> Republishing those screenshots could run afoul of copyright restrictions, but no more so than embedding currently does.

Embedding should be fine because that's being "published" by Twitter who you have already given permission to publish (cf [1]) although I'd have thought (IANAL) that a screenshot would be a good example of "fair use for commentary" except when e.g. news services embed tweets, they're often not commenting on those tweets specifically, just giving a general flavour of sentiment.

It's a minefield, probably.

[1] https://www.buzzfeednews.com/article/jwherrman/want-to-publi...