Re:“Twitter will be forming a content moderation council wit...
by mwint on Friday October 28, 2022 @04:05PM
(#33377076)
Oh come on, that’s like saying someone isn’t being tortured, just temporarily having their pleasure removed until they confess.
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Re:“Twitter will be forming a content moderation council wit...
by klyrs on Friday October 28, 2022 @04:13PM
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Is it actually anything like torture, though?
Re:“Twitter will be forming a content moderation council wit...
by GaylordTuring on Friday October 28, 2022 @07:43PM
(#33379425)
That's often not the point of analogies like this. So for the analog to be valid, the seriousness of the situation described doesn't have to be on similar levels. If you look up the definition of "analogy" on merriam-webster.com it says: "resemblance in some [my emphasis] particulars between things otherwise unlike"
Re:“Twitter will be forming a content moderation council wit...
by klyrs on Saturday October 29, 2022 @12:04AM
(#33380859)
Yeah, I know what an analogy is. It's a bloody stupid analogy because it's making a mountain out of a mole hill, when we all know that moles dig tunnels.
Re:“Twitter will be forming a content moderation council wit...
by encryptluks2 on Friday October 28, 2022 @04:14PM
(#33377215)
No, that is like saying someone should remove some obscene clothing before entering a private establishment and here you are comparing it to be tortured.
Re:“Twitter will be forming a content moderation council wit...
by fazfq on Friday October 28, 2022 @04:17PM
(#33377268)
"You may not enter" is the literal definition of banning someone
Re:“Twitter will be forming a content moderation council wit...
by paulmd on Friday October 28, 2022 @04:26PM
(#33377420)
If you can come back by removing the offending element, you aren't really banned.
"No offensive t-shirts" is not the same thing as being banned lol
Re:“Twitter will be forming a content moderation council wit...
by unsupp0rted on Friday October 28, 2022 @04:44PM
(#33377695)
If the offending element is one's personality or one's beliefs, then yes, one can come back by removing that, but it's the same thing as not coming back.
Re:“Twitter will be forming a content moderation council wit...
by jonny_eh on Friday October 28, 2022 @05:00PM
(#33377831)
Removing a tweet and removing a belief are two very different things.
Re:“Twitter will be forming a content moderation council wit...
by unsupp0rted on Friday October 28, 2022 @05:11PM
(#33377977)
Not really: we see on Reddit all the time how subreddits quickly descend into herds that can only upvote accepted ideas and instantly downvote to oblivion or ban anything even neutral (much less antagonistic to the subreddit’s worldview).
Anybody who comes by with a different take immediately loses interest in the group and so there’s a self-perpetuating system that makes the group more and more fanatical about right-think and wrong-think.
On Twitter, deleting tweets for wrong-think has largely the same chilling effect and self-perpetuating descent into an echo chamber.
Re:“Twitter will be forming a content moderation council wit...
by jonny_eh on Friday October 28, 2022 @05:34PM
(#33378204)
"deleting tweets for wrong-think"
When did this happen? Are you referring to tweets that promote anti-semetism like Ye's? Or to tweets advocating for political violence, like Trump's?
Re:“Twitter will be forming a content moderation council wit...
by mwint on Wednesday November 02, 2022 @08:25AM
(#33434596)
See: Basically everyone who was suggesting the Wuhan virology lab was a plausible source for a virus originating in Wuhan.
Re:“Twitter will be forming a content moderation council wit...
by themitigating on Friday October 28, 2022 @05:12PM
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You're not removing your belief
Re:“Twitter will be forming a content moderation council wit...
by joshuamorton on Friday October 28, 2022 @05:14PM
(#33378007)
"You cannot believe in Christianity" and "You cannot hold mass in my house" are two very different statements.
Re:“Twitter will be forming a content moderation council wit...
by mwint on Friday October 28, 2022 @11:20PM
(#33380671)
How about if AT&T said “you cannot pray over our telephone lines”? Because that seems closer to what’s happening here.
Re:“Twitter will be forming a content moderation council wit...
by ilyt on Saturday October 29, 2022 @01:43AM
(#33381318)
Twitter have almost 400 million users. It's not "your house" at this point, it's public space.
Re:“Twitter will be forming a content moderation council wit...
by joshuamorton on Saturday October 29, 2022 @01:58PM
(#33386430)
So at what number of attendees does my house become public space?
Re:“Twitter will be forming a content moderation council wit...
by encryptluks2 on Saturday October 29, 2022 @11:26PM
(#33390718)
Never because you own it and have rights just like the Supreme Court has established that most private businesses has the right to kick people out. If people don't like that then they should petition the government to take over Twitter and make it a utility or government service.
Re:“Twitter will be forming a content moderation council wit...
by freejazz on Friday October 28, 2022 @06:59PM
(#33379056)
No shirt, no shoes, no service.
Re:“Twitter will be forming a content moderation council wit...
by concinds on Friday October 28, 2022 @04:58PM
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It seems you're coming at it from the other side. If it were up to me, I'd remove the "lock" feature that seems too much like a struggle session (as noted in https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=33371795), and just have tweets be taken down without needing users to admit guilt. I also would oppose banning either Kanye or the Bee.
But if someone is arguing that it was a ban, and that it shows Musk unbanned them and is lying, then that's wrong. I was addressing that argument.