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Re:Why Is Hydroelectricity So Green, and yet Unfashionable? by sidewndr46 on Thursday October 27, 2022 @10:55PM (#33367058)
What does the location of the reservoir matter? If you're taking a river and pumping it up on top of somewhere (a mesa in your example) aren't you going to cause the river to basically run dry everywhere downstream of where your pump is?
Re:Why Is Hydroelectricity So Green, and yet Unfashionable? by pfdietz on Thursday October 27, 2022 @10:59PM (#33367084)
There's no river at the bottom, either. I thought the "desert" part would make that clear, but I guess it had to be said.

Water in this system is part of the capital cost (charging it up when you start), then a minor maintenance cost (replacing evaporation). Otherwise, unlike primary hydro, there is no large constant flow out of the system, and no need to be on a river.

The water lost to evaporation is at least an order of magnitude less than water evaporated from a nuclear plant of the same levelized power.

Re:Why Is Hydroelectricity So Green, and yet Unfashionable? by sidewndr46 on Thursday October 27, 2022 @11:22PM (#33367263)
Wouldn't you need two reservoirs in that case? Otherwise where is the water being drained down to take advantage of the potential energy?
Re:Why Is Hydroelectricity So Green, and yet Unfashionable? by pfdietz on Friday October 28, 2022 @12:45AM (#33367773)
Yes, of course. Off-river pumped hydro involves two reservoirs.
Re:Why Is Hydroelectricity So Green, and yet Unfashionable? by nirimda on Friday October 28, 2022 @06:38AM (#33369708)
I think the confusion is a couple of comments up you said "There's a plan to put a reservoir for one on top of a mesa in the desert in Arizona" which is really confusing since of course they're planning to put a pair of reservoirs for one in the desert in Arizona. I guess only one is on top of the mesa though.
Re:Why Is Hydroelectricity So Green, and yet Unfashionable? by sidewndr46 on Friday October 28, 2022 @07:46AM (#33370174)
So at that point why use a river? Couldn't you just use ocean water? It's comparatively "free" and we aren't going to run out anytime soon.
Re:Why Is Hydroelectricity So Green, and yet Unfashionable? by BurningFrog on Friday October 28, 2022 @10:55AM (#33372130)
With a high enough plateau near an ocean, that should work.

I think those places are really rare though.