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Re:Google Quietly Added HEVC Support in Chrome by bscphil on Tuesday October 25, 2022 @08:19PM (#33338054)
It's ironic, not one week ago there were a bunch of complaints on this site saying that Google was abusing their position of power (controlling YouTube, Chrome, Android TV, etc) by pushing AV1. Now they bring HEVC support to Chrome and the top comment is another complaint!

(That said, I agree with you. I think a codec being royalty free is a very good reason to prefer it to other codecs.)

Re:Google Quietly Added HEVC Support in Chrome by ISL on Tuesday October 25, 2022 @08:45PM (#33338263)
There may be more than one person posting on HN.
Re:Google Quietly Added HEVC Support in Chrome by Xorlev on Tuesday October 25, 2022 @09:02PM (#33338402)
While true, I think it was illustrating the "damned if you do, damned if you don't" approach HN takes to Google in general.
Re:Google Quietly Added HEVC Support in Chrome by andsoitis on Tuesday October 25, 2022 @09:12PM (#33338461)
> HN takes to Google in general

Not exclusive to HN. Humans just have different opinions.

Re:Google Quietly Added HEVC Support in Chrome by tedd4u on Tuesday October 25, 2022 @10:21PM (#33338975)
But HN moderators usually seem to upvote the complaints over the kudos.
Re:Google Quietly Added HEVC Support in Chrome by johndfsgdgdfg on Tuesday October 25, 2022 @09:51PM (#33338737)
Well, Google invades our privacy. Google holds its users hostages to money. I am glad that HN is doing its job to stop Google.
Re:Google Quietly Added HEVC Support in Chrome by vanviegen on Wednesday October 26, 2022 @01:31AM (#33340161)
Hostages? I'd say Google is better than most regarding data portability, assuming that's what you're referring to, offering 'takeout' for just about everything.
Re:Google Quietly Added HEVC Support in Chrome by jchw on Tuesday October 25, 2022 @11:56PM (#33339632)
Personally, I have no idea why people are so upset about WebM and AV1 and etc. Like sure, they're not necessarily God's gift to AV, but they're reasonable enough, and patent unencumbered. Google may be awful, but that doesn't mean the incentives can't align. I can tell you that my incentives are perpendicularly aligned with MPEG-LA's in this situation, so...
Re:Google Quietly Added HEVC Support in Chrome by neurostimulant on Wednesday October 26, 2022 @06:47AM (#33341928)
You can't please everyone when your service is used by half of the world's population.
Re:Google Quietly Added HEVC Support in Chrome by P5fRxh5kUvp2th on Tuesday October 25, 2022 @09:17PM (#33338486)
wait, what? Are you sure that's true?

I think maybe you're responding sarcastically to yourself while eating this burrito.

Re:Google Quietly Added HEVC Support in Chrome by concinds on Tuesday October 25, 2022 @10:26PM (#33339015)
The comment was about the internet "hivemind"; no need to be pedantic about it.

Keep in mind that upwards of 95% of people will read comments but not post any themselves (and to address an obvious retort, sure, it'll be a different 95% for each submission). So the general "tone" of the comments absolutely impacts public perception, especially now that practically no-one consumes straight-news without social media commentary.

Redditors use identical arguments: "we're different people!" when their website is the most groupthink-y of all.

Re:Google Quietly Added HEVC Support in Chrome by FeepingCreature on Wednesday October 26, 2022 @07:39AM (#33342238)
Threads are groupthink, but subreddits with diverse topics are less groupthink than you'd think. Different user groups turn out for different headlines, at different times, etc.
Re:Google Quietly Added HEVC Support in Chrome by stavros on Tuesday October 25, 2022 @08:46PM (#33338265)
> Now they bring HEVC support to Chrome and the top comment is another complaint!

Well, you know how it is, some complaints are wrong and some are right.

Re:Google Quietly Added HEVC Support in Chrome by makeitdouble on Tuesday October 25, 2022 @11:03PM (#33339318)
TBF they can be abusing their position + helping other companies abuse their position as well.

Just reading about the historical context of AV1 it all feels like huge dirty lawyer battles involving troves of money thrown around, with the user as a hostage indirectly footing the bill in the end so we can't just ignore all the drama.

I would want to side with Google on the open side they seem to be championing, but there's no way it doesn't come with huge side effects that we will pay sooner or later.

All to say, it's looks like a complicated enough matter that opinions will be devised and all options might not be great, some just being more acceptable than others.