Re:Google Quietly Added HEVC Support in Chrome
by LeoPanthera on Tuesday October 25, 2022 @07:36PM
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HEVC encoding is far more mature. Encoders are faster, of better quality, and hardware acceleration exists. Additionally, for video playback outside of a PC, HEVC support is ubiquitous, AV1 support is virtually unknown.
Re:Google Quietly Added HEVC Support in Chrome
by mustache_kimono on Tuesday October 25, 2022 @08:20PM
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And -- universality of the playback. "Why don't people adopt Vorbis?" almost answers itself, "Where/on what devices are they going to play it?" Without looking -- does your Apple TV support X?
Re:Google Quietly Added HEVC Support in Chrome
by alwayslikethis on Tuesday October 25, 2022 @11:58PM
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For the record, it seems like more and more devices are supporting Opus for general use cases. It seems to be the audio codec end game - at 16kbps it sounds as good to me as 64kbps mp3
Re:Google Quietly Added HEVC Support in Chrome
by mustache_kimono on Wednesday October 26, 2022 @02:50PM
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> For the record, it seems like more and more devices are supporting Opus for general use cases
Yes, exactly and AFAIK it's because Chrome/Google/YouTube has recently supported Opus to the exclusion of these proprietary formats for higher quality (read HEVC level) video.
Re:Google Quietly Added HEVC Support in Chrome
by crazygringo on Tuesday October 25, 2022 @07:28PM
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At least with web streams, pirates don't re-encode.
And since web streams are in h.264 and h.265, that's what the torrents are in too. It's not about preference, it's about the source.
(And the web streams are in h.264 and h.265 because that's what people have the most hardware decoders for, which preserves CPU usage and battery life.)
Re:Google Quietly Added HEVC Support in Chrome
by mihaic on Tuesday October 25, 2022 @08:18PM
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That applies for TV show. For movies though, the vast majority of new torrents are Blurays re-encoded to HEVC (x265 being the encoder used pretty much every time).
Re:Google Quietly Added HEVC Support in Chrome
by kcb on Tuesday October 25, 2022 @08:25PM
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UHD Blu rays are also HEVC.
Re:Google Quietly Added HEVC Support in Chrome
by black3r on Tuesday October 25, 2022 @08:46PM
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well yes, but not everyone wants to download 70GB movies, so blu-ray movies are often re-encoded for smaller filesizes (10-20GB 4K HEVC, 5-10GB 1080p H264 AC3 sound, 1-5GB 1080p HEVC AAC)
Re:Google Quietly Added HEVC Support in Chrome
by my123 on Tuesday October 25, 2022 @07:24PM
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Most people don't have AV1 decoders. So not very surprising that pirates too would choose to use HEVC.
Re:Google Quietly Added HEVC Support in Chrome
by black3r on Tuesday October 25, 2022 @08:41PM
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It comes down to the fact that HEVC is supported by more devices. 1080p and lower resolution versions of pirated movies still come in H264, because that is supported by even more devices...
Re:Google Quietly Added HEVC Support in Chrome
by tiagod on Tuesday October 25, 2022 @09:24PM
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This is it. Lots of poeple use stuff like Plex, on devices that will handle QHD HEVC but not QHD AV1. Not to speak of every other device...
Re:Google Quietly Added HEVC Support in Chrome
by NelsonMinar on Tuesday October 25, 2022 @09:10PM
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Some discussion on this question 2.5 years ago: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=19362098
Re:Google Quietly Added HEVC Support in Chrome
by GingerMidas on Tuesday October 25, 2022 @10:11PM
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Thanks, I like reading this stuff. But that link was 3.5 years ago
Re:Google Quietly Added HEVC Support in Chrome
by hot_gril on Tuesday October 25, 2022 @10:37PM
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I don't get how IP factors in here. As a non-pirate just distributing my cooking tutorial, I don't have to pay when I encode in HEVC.
Re:Google Quietly Added HEVC Support in Chrome
by kart23 on Tuesday October 25, 2022 @11:07PM
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encode is/was slow. Theres at least one group that was running an encode farm for AV1 though. today, theres a TON more AV1 content available these days from pirates as better hardware is available, and ffmpeg is usable with AV1 now.
Maybe they have moved to av1 and I just don’t know it. Either way the quality of the piracy scene has always seemed vastly better than legitimate channels, up until Netflix.