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Re:Cloudflare CDN Partial Outage by nonrandomstring on Tuesday October 25, 2022 @04:41PM (#33335872)
> operating a big site/service

This sounds like a very plausible argument. I've heard many of the arguments and don't dispute the threat model to something like Cloudflare.

And yet something about it still doesn't add up.

It turns power into a weakness.

How is it that much smaller sites - still able to serve something as simple as a plain-text blog to millions of users from a modest rack shack - operate perfectly well without any impediment?

Wouldn't an operation with all the power, might and money of Cloudflare be able to do a better job and still maintain the QoS (accessibility, interoperability etc) as Basement Bob with her Raspberry Pi?

Remember, all I want to do here is read a static web page of (I guess) less than 1000 words.

I'll take a punt: if "defending against millions of bots" is Cloudflare's business offering, then being able to serve a static site off a Raspberry Pi doesn't look good :)

Re:Cloudflare CDN Partial Outage by yunohn on Tuesday October 25, 2022 @05:17PM (#33336296)
Is your claim that Basement Bob’s raspberry pi could withstand the kind of attacks that companies like Cloudflare handle?

Eg - https://blog.cloudflare.com/26m-rps-ddos/

Re:Cloudflare CDN Partial Outage by csande17 on Tuesday October 25, 2022 @06:01PM (#33336721)
I think the parent comment's claim is that serving a CAPTCHA page to potential attackers may actually be more resource intensive than serving a lightweight page that has the actual content on it.
Re:Cloudflare CDN Partial Outage by yunohn on Wednesday October 26, 2022 @03:58AM (#33341002)
So, you posit, that Cloudflare has never thought of this before or weighed the pros/cons before building an entire business out of it? Sure.
Re:Cloudflare CDN Partial Outage by csande17 on Thursday October 27, 2022 @05:04AM (#33355050)
Typically, the pages that Cloudflare protects are not especially lightweight or efficient.
Re:Cloudflare CDN Partial Outage by nonrandomstring on Tuesday October 25, 2022 @06:34PM (#33337068)
No. It's that Basement Bob's Raspberry Pi doesn't need to.
Re:Cloudflare CDN Partial Outage by yunohn on Wednesday October 26, 2022 @03:59AM (#33341009)
I don’t think your line of reasoning was very coherent, and displayed a lack of understanding of reality.