macOS 13 Ventura: The Ars Technica review

Re:macOS 13 Ventura: The Ars Technica review by bryanlarsen on Tuesday October 25, 2022 @10:50AM (#33331229)

This upgrade is going to cost me a lot of money. They've dropped support for my beefy 2016 MBP. Soon enough the latest version of XCode is going to require Ventura and I won't be able to build my app.

Meanwhile, Linus is only just starting the discussion to drop the 486 from the Linux kernel.

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Re:macOS 13 Ventura: The Ars Technica review by tinus_hn on Tuesday October 25, 2022 @12:23PM (#33332715)

Try running a major, modern Linux distribution on a 486.

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Re:macOS 13 Ventura: The Ars Technica review by Suzuran on Tuesday October 25, 2022 @01:15PM (#33333430)

This has more to do with the 486 (or clones of it) having adoption in embedded platforms that run Linux than Linux being reluctant to let support for old consumer-oriented hardware die. For example, Linux doesn't even bother with attempting to mitigate speculative execution vulnerabilities on Intel processors running in 32-bit mode, you are just told you are vulnerable and that's that.

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Re:macOS 13 Ventura: The Ars Technica review by bryanlarsen on Tuesday October 25, 2022 @03:10PM (#33334871)

What's the chicken and what's the egg? A large part of the reason that Linux is popular in embedded is because it has a long support period.

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Re:macOS 13 Ventura: The Ars Technica review by Suzuran on Tuesday October 25, 2022 @03:29PM (#33335062)

My point was that the support for 486 was being kept due to its embedded applications and not so someone with a 486-based desktop PC can expect to build a modern distribution on it and achieve full functionality equivalent to a modern machine.

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Re:macOS 13 Ventura: The Ars Technica review by bryanlarsen on Tuesday October 25, 2022 @04:00PM (#33335393)

Not all comment replies are disagreements.

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Re:macOS 13 Ventura: The Ars Technica review by DavideNL on Tuesday October 25, 2022 @01:54PM (#33333984)

This might be useful to you: https://dortania.github.io/OpenCore-Legacy-Patcher/

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Re:macOS 13 Ventura: The Ars Technica review by tolger on Tuesday October 25, 2022 @09:54PM (#33338771)

No one is forcing you to upgrade. I still have a 2008 Mac running El Capitan and I can do everything I need to do on it.

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Re:macOS 13 Ventura: The Ars Technica review by kcplate on Tuesday October 25, 2022 @10:30PM (#33339047)

Literally just retired a 2018 MBP this year because the battery swelled up.

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Re:macOS 13 Ventura: The Ars Technica review by subarctic on Wednesday October 26, 2022 @02:44AM (#33340544)

I used to think that, but at some point I noticed that homebrew was compiling dependencies instead of downloading compiled binaries, and found out it was because my OS was not in the most recent 3 versions.

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Re:macOS 13 Ventura: The Ars Technica review by pohuing on Wednesday October 26, 2022 @08:36AM (#33342730)

Can you compile for IOS 15? I'm stuck on big sur and can't connect to my iPhone anymore

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Re:macOS 13 Ventura: The Ars Technica review by kylec on Wednesday October 26, 2022 @03:23AM (#33340767)

Will you need the latest version of Xcode? Could you continue to use an older version of Xcode to develop your app?

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Re:macOS 13 Ventura: The Ars Technica review by muthuraj57 on Wednesday October 26, 2022 @06:07AM (#33341702)

I think latest version of XCode is needed if latest iOS is being targeted.

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Re:macOS 13 Ventura: The Ars Technica review by pohuing on Wednesday October 26, 2022 @08:35AM (#33342722)

Probably, imagine my shock when I upgraded my iPhone, enjoying ios15 only to realise that my dev machine has become useless and that I can't downgrade IOS either. Being used to Windows I was completely caught off guard by just how terrible the ecosystem is if you don't keep buying new devices.

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