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Re:Bumble open sources Private Detector, AI tool to detect u... by danuker on Tuesday October 25, 2022 @03:25AM (#33327277)
It is not.

https://www.marieclaire.com/politics/bumble-now-unsolicited-...

> This sending of unsolicited nudes, or cyberflashing, is not only violent and pernicious, it’s entirely without consequences in 49 states.

Re:Bumble open sources Private Detector, AI tool to detect u... by Kiro on Tuesday October 25, 2022 @03:36AM (#33327351)
Keep reading the article and you will see it is now indeed illegal in a few places, including Texas where Bumble is based.

> Now, the sending of a lewd photo without the recipient’s consent is a Class C misdemeanor in Texas, punishable by a fine of up to $500.

Re:Bumble open sources Private Detector, AI tool to detect u... by zimpenfish on Tuesday October 25, 2022 @05:18AM (#33328143)
> you will see it is now indeed illegal in a few places

There's a bill waiting for a Governor's signature in Virginia (which I guess will make it illegal there) and some bills being discussed / worked on in other places but as far as I can tell from the article, Texas is currently the only state with an actual law on the books to make it illegal.

Re:Bumble open sources Private Detector, AI tool to detect u... by 4gotunameagain on Tuesday October 25, 2022 @05:11AM (#33328077)
> not only violent

When the western world is so isolated from violence that a naked photo is labeled as such..

Don't get me wrong, that is probably a good thing. And of course I am against unsolicited nudes, but "violence" is a bit of a stretch

Re:Bumble open sources Private Detector, AI tool to detect u... by mschuster91 on Tuesday October 25, 2022 @05:38AM (#33328299)
There are jurisdictions other than the US, you know? Germany, for example, places unsolicited nude photos as a felony [1].

[1] https://www.anwalt.de/rechtstipps/strafanzeige-wegen-des-ver...

Re:Bumble open sources Private Detector, AI tool to detect u... by formerly_proven on Tuesday October 25, 2022 @07:48AM (#33329248)
184 isn't a highlight of German legislation though. It's one of the many leftovers from the prussian police and justice system, which had a heavy emphasis on morality and decency. 184 for example also criminalizes everyone in Germany who ever uploaded porn to a site that doesn't comply with current youth protection laws (which is all of them, basically).
Re:Bumble open sources Private Detector, AI tool to detect u... by mschuster91 on Tuesday October 25, 2022 @08:11AM (#33329432)
Fully agree that the 184 series of StGB is not up to date (e.g. that 17 year olds routinely end up in trouble with the law for sending their partners consensual pictures) and the German youth protection law is ridiculous, but the idea that sending someone unsolicited pornography is bad is a good one IMHO.
Re:Bumble open sources Private Detector, AI tool to detect u... by formerly_proven on Tuesday October 25, 2022 @09:15AM (#33330045)
Sure, nothing wrong per se with 184(1)6 criminalizing that.

I'd argue though that this only comes about unintentionally because 184i (sexual harassment) only covers physical sexual harassment.

Meanwhile non-physical sexual harassment is completely legal in Germany unless it is an insult in itself (185).

IMHO the proper way is to mostly yeet 184 (because there is no particular reason for the state to morally regulate porn using the criminal code apart from stuff like CSAM) and criminalize sexual harassment in general (physical or not). That's of course going to be a hard sell for German conservatives (I can already see CDU and AfD go "the leftist greens dictatorship is making DATING illegal!")

Re:Bumble open sources Private Detector, AI tool to detect u... by DarkWiiPlayer on Tuesday October 25, 2022 @09:36AM (#33330276)
Honestly, I think the proper way with most laws would be to just yeet them entirely and go for a round of refactoring; but alas, politicians aren't programmers and neither do they have the same mindset of cleaning up after themselves or even after others, so we're stuck with sub-optimal legislation like this and that probably won't ever change.
Re:Bumble open sources Private Detector, AI tool to detect u... by mschuster91 on Tuesday October 25, 2022 @09:45AM (#33330367)
It has happened a couple of times in the past (e.g. with the law on transgender people or homosexual marriage) that the courts stepped in and demanded improvement or yeeted laws outright as they became untenable.

It's not unthinkable, particularly as the generation "18th birthday gift? Onlyfans account" enters political life, that the same will happen again. Additionally, the youth protection commission NRW is on a holy crusade against Pornhub and other sites - should they eventually be successful, younger people who don't care about the news and only react when they see their favourite porn site going dark in Germany may rise up and demand reforms as well.

And on top of that, boomers are thankfully slowly dying out and retiring, so the gerontocrats in parliament will go away as well.