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Re:My next Mac might be the last by kitsunesoba on Monday October 24, 2022 @11:39PM (#33325896)
> Moving files is unintuitive. It should be [cmd+x] then [cmd+v]. Instead it's [cmd+c] then [option+cmd+v], and this behavior is not afforded in the UI, you just have to look it up somewhere.

That's discoverable by holding down Option while the Edit menu is open. This pattern of "revealing" additional functions with modifiers in menus has existed on macOS for a very long time.

> Speaking of pressing [enter] on files, that should open them, not rename them.

> For that matter, pressing [delete] should delete files. You just have to know that the key for that is [cmd+delete], and that deleting things is called moving them to the trash.

Adding a modifier to these functions helps prevent accidental irritating (opening 500 selected files) or potentially destructive (moving selected files to the trash) actions due to fat fingering, which is a particularly likely occurrence on laptops where edge keys like delete and return are easy to accidentally hit just moving around one's laptop. The accidental opening by hitting return one is something I've done several times over the years and it's never not infuriating.

On Windows, deleting it moves it to the Recycle Bin which is functionally equivalent to what macOS does. In fact off the top of my head I don't know of a modern desktop environment that just directly deletes files without recourse.

> It's not clear to me why I can't close Finder by pressing [cmd+q]. Quitting finder is usually all I want to do when it's open.

Because the Finder powers the desktop too and its windows are not separate processes. In fact no application on macOS spawns additional windows as separate processes, that's a Windows/Linux thing.

Re:My next Mac might be the last by KingMob on Tuesday October 25, 2022 @01:12AM (#33326493)
> That's discoverable by holding down Option while the Edit menu is open. This pattern of "revealing" additional functions with modifiers in menus has existed on macOS for a very long time.

Ironically, holding down "Option" to see hidden menu items is not discoverable at all. Most people will only ever do it by accident. The point is that anything commonly desired should not be hidden like that.

Re:My next Mac might be the last by angry_octet on Tuesday October 25, 2022 @09:48AM (#33330397)
There use to be MacWorld and MacUser for discovering these tips, conveniently scattered around the Math Dept tea room, or a very reasonable subscription. These days I've no idea how people discover these tips. TikTok? By chance on Twitter? Searching would be impossible.
Re:My next Mac might be the last by filchermcurr on Wednesday October 26, 2022 @04:26PM (#33348939)
Apple still publishes a manual for macOS: https://support.apple.com/guide/mac-help/welcome/mac

There's also the 'Help' menu in Finder that has the manual, tips, and menu search functionality.

Re:My next Mac might be the last by greiskul on Tuesday October 25, 2022 @03:34AM (#33327338)
> Because the Finder powers the desktop too and its windows are not separate processes. In fact no application on macOS spawns additional windows as separate processes, that's a Windows/Linux thing.

That Finder and the desktop are a single process is an implementation detail that should be hidden from UI mechanisms like this.

Re:My next Mac might be the last by kitsunesoba on Tuesday October 25, 2022 @10:55AM (#33331346)
Either way, it would be a strange experience to hit Command-Q to “quit” (close all windows) the Finder only to land right back in the Finder (desktop) again.
Re:My next Mac might be the last by thiht on Tuesday October 25, 2022 @08:46AM (#33329746)
> That's discoverable by holding down Option while the Edit menu is open

So, not discoverable at all.