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Re:I help seniors with technology issues. A regular came in ... by thefz on Monday October 24, 2022 @06:21AM (#33314822)
"Just get a Macbook" isn't really a solution. Sub-1000€ customer grade hardware is plenty capable for a lot of tasks people might want, and some other users want the ability to run the OS of their choice too.

Personally I consider the modern OSX interface a huge hindrance to get any decent work done, compared to Windows and any Linux with a DE.

Re:I help seniors with technology issues. A regular came in ... by 2muchcoffeeman on Monday October 24, 2022 @06:41AM (#33314961)
If you just need a computer to connect to the internet and occasionally entertain yourself, you can get an OK looking laptop for $500AUD or about $300USD/300EUR. Never mind sub 1000EUR. That’s kind of an insane price when you think about it. And it is too good to be true, because they load it up with junk.

But people aren’t thinking about the software. They see a half decent looking machine for very little money and bite because they don’t want to spend more.

Re:I help seniors with technology issues. A regular came in ... by vbezhenar on Monday October 24, 2022 @06:46AM (#33314991)
I bought Dell Latitude 3410 for $600. It was loaded with Ubuntu with zero bloatware as far as I can judge. Just some Dell logos and some module blacklists. I upgraded it with SSD and RAM, replaced Ubuntu with Fedora and now it's a little beast which can back me up if my main laptop would die.
Re:I help seniors with technology issues. A regular came in ... by sbuk on Monday October 24, 2022 @08:30AM (#33315821)
In order for that consumer-grade hardware to be that cheap, the vendors add bloatware from other vendors to augment the loss of profits by selling at close to cost., or at least a severely limited margin. This has a knock on effect of making what would be decent enough as a simple daily driver have extremely poor performance.