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Re:Experiments Spell Doom for Decades-Old Explanation of Qua... by mjan22640 on Friday October 21, 2022 @12:56PM (#33290297)
Could the other branches be our dark matter?
Re:Experiments Spell Doom for Decades-Old Explanation of Qua... by jfengel on Friday October 21, 2022 @01:48PM (#33290912)
No. They don't behave at all like dark matter. Among other things, there's no reason for them to be distributed in a halo, nor for some galaxies to lack them.
Re:Experiments Spell Doom for Decades-Old Explanation of Qua... by plutonorm on Friday October 21, 2022 @02:16PM (#33291265)
Broad statements, do you have the time to elaborate?
Re:Experiments Spell Doom for Decades-Old Explanation of Qua... by simonh on Friday October 21, 2022 @02:34PM (#33291473)
Dark matter affects some galaxies, but the rotation of others is completely explained by the observable matter. Why would one galaxy be influenced by its many worlds twins, but not another?
Re:Experiments Spell Doom for Decades-Old Explanation of Qua... by jameshart on Friday October 21, 2022 @02:55PM (#33291734)
Sci-fi plot concept answer: because one galaxy is populated by sentient life, and the other isn’t.
Re:Experiments Spell Doom for Decades-Old Explanation of Qua... by tremon on Friday October 21, 2022 @04:22PM (#33292619)
Quarantine by Greg Egan explores this concept (the many-worlds theory, without the dark matter).
Re:Experiments Spell Doom for Decades-Old Explanation of Qua... by plutonorm on Saturday October 22, 2022 @08:26AM (#33297751)
Well because that galaxy in that position might be a low probability event - not many universes have that galaxy at that position. So therefore that galaxy appears to have less dark matter.
Re:Experiments Spell Doom for Decades-Old Explanation of Qua... by gus_massa on Friday October 21, 2022 @04:57PM (#33292953)
The Milky Way and other similar galaxies look like spiral drawn in a thick 2D disk.

The dark matter halo looks like an invisible 3D ball around the thick 2D disk.

Something like https://www.google.com/search?q=dark+matter+halo&tbm=isch

Re:Experiments Spell Doom for Decades-Old Explanation of Qua... by tremon on Saturday October 22, 2022 @04:44PM (#33302064)
I thought that the main mechanism that produces the 2D disk of matter in galaxies was gravity, and that dark matter is equally affected by gravity as normal matter? What is the prevailing theory as to why dark matter accretion around galaxies is different from normal matter?

(edit: to answer my own question, the rabbit hole starts here: https://physics.stackexchange.com/questions/485214/ -- basically, accretion happens because light matter can radiate and shed its (kinetic) energy that way. Dark matter does not radiate so it remains in a higher-energy state)

Re:Experiments Spell Doom for Decades-Old Explanation of Qua... by phkahler on Friday October 21, 2022 @09:07PM (#33294667)
There's no reason for any dark matter to be distributed in a halo. Maybe it makes some math work better for the observations but nobody offers a dynamical explanation of how it would come to be a halo.
Re:Experiments Spell Doom for Decades-Old Explanation of Qua... by raattgift on Saturday October 22, 2022 @06:29AM (#33297050)
> There's no reason for any dark matter to be distributed in a halo.

This was one of the more eye-catching statements in this thread. To be blunt, you're wrong. A straightforward and almost inevitable dynamical explanation has been available (and explored in ever greater detail) since at least the mid-1990s, driven in part by the Saskatoon experiment and subsequently supported by BOOMERanG's observation of the first acoustic peak, and many others lines of evidence since then (see [1] for a less-heavy explanation than what follows).

You may wish to check this chapter from a forthcoming graduate-level textbook in galactic dynamics from well-known galactic astrophysicist Jo Bovy <http://astro.utoronto.ca/~bovy/>, which you can read for free at his site: <https://galaxiesbook.org/chapters/IV-01.-Formation-DM-Halos....>.

There are of course other already-completed textbooks. For example, one can find an excellent pedagogic (if advanced) treatment of primordial Gaussian Random Fields[2] as applied to halo formation in chapter 7 of Mo, van den Bosch & White (2010) <https://www.cambridge.org/core/books/abs/galaxy-formation-an...> (you can find the chapter on scy hob via its DOI if you don't have institutional or otherwise affordable access).

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[1] https://lweb.cfa.harvard.edu/~deisenst/acousticpeak/acoustic... from <https://astronomy.fas.harvard.edu/people/daniel-eisenstein>

[2] If you're more visually inclined and can't find the illustrated version of Mo et al., see the diagrams on p.3-5 of this slide deck on GRFs <https://www.astro.rug.nl/~weygaert/tim1publication/lss2016/l...> from Rien van de Weijgaert of the Kapteyn Institute at the University of Groningen.