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Re:New motorcycle lighting design could save lives by gojomo on Thursday October 20, 2022 @03:21PM (#33279388)
This research, & further your comment, makes me wonder:

Customized cars often project vanity mood lighting down towards the pavement. (I believe the legality of such nonstandard lighting varies across jurisdictions.)

Perhaps motorcycles could be required to project a large light-splash down, creating a more-visible 'light puddle' below them. It could even be something with very-sharp boundaries, & a standard oval size, so that the shape more strongly communicates distance/angle/speed.

Re:New motorcycle lighting design could save lives by nonrandomstring on Thursday October 20, 2022 @04:16PM (#33280116)
That's really quite a good idea.

I've seem bicycles in London projecting a green bike emblem into the road about 5 meters ahead using a laser.

Two somewhat higher intensity spots on the road ahead would work as you indicate, At least in ideal road conditions.

Re:New motorcycle lighting design could save lives by 2muchcoffeeman on Thursday October 20, 2022 @05:46PM (#33281253)
I’ve never seen this in Australia. But my main gripe with motor/push bikes is a) People riding without any lights. b) People riding without sufficient lightly.

Re. b)If a bike comes up really close to the rear of your vehicle, and the rider has no reflective gear, the light can be obscured by your own vehicle.

Re. a) I’m not sure if this is some Aussie thing. Especially with push bikes. The number of people I’ve seen on the road at night with no lighting and zero reflective gear.

Re:New motorcycle lighting design could save lives by Nursie on Friday October 21, 2022 @05:01AM (#33286049)
So as a relatively recent migrant to Aus, I find that odd because AFAICT the regulations here are more strict than back in the UK. I.E. you must wear a helmet, you must have lights after dark, your bike must have a certain configuration of reflectors (two in the wheel, back/front of each pedals, front and rear) etc.

From what I understand the reflector stuff is routinely ignored by 'the community' because it's outdated, rules out use of clipless setups etc.

But the lights ... no idea. It's really really bad idea to cycle on the road at night with no lights. I wouldn't want to risk it, and it's scary as a driver when all of a sudden there's this dark figure out of nowhere.

Re:New motorcycle lighting design could save lives by amflare on Thursday October 20, 2022 @05:04PM (#33280678)
I suspect this would harm the motorcyclist's night-vision in a way that a car driver is not affected due to the light reflecting off the ground and right back at them. Whereas the body of the car protects the driver from the glare.
Re:New motorcycle lighting design could save lives by dharmab on Thursday October 20, 2022 @06:18PM (#33281545)
Rider here. It'd be out of my field of view when riding. A friend had such a system on his Harley and the visibility was helpful.
Re:New motorcycle lighting design could save lives by Scoundreller on Thursday October 20, 2022 @11:26PM (#33284139)
Bicycle rider with a somewhat weak top-of-helmet mounted light (maybe 100 or 200 lumens): I have a tough time telling if it's on while riding if it's somewhat bright. Zero impact to view.

Can really help with retro-reflective signage, since I can point a light directly at the sign. But definitely not a blinding return.

Re:New motorcycle lighting design could save lives by mfashby on Friday October 21, 2022 @04:10AM (#33285710)
I use a 300 lumen one, and it's the same, reflection is just not a problem at any reasonable distance (like over a metre)
Re:New motorcycle lighting design could save lives by _carbyau_ on Thursday October 20, 2022 @09:33PM (#33283173)
A good idea that needs more compliance/regulation work ahead of standardising.

Similar to https://www.aliexpress.com/w/wholesale-bicycle-laser-tail-li...

One issue is: - Propensity of people to use "lasers" for this, see above link. - Bikes with and without motors, lean to the side. - People don't like lasers being flashed in their eyes.

But even motorbike foglights, turned almost vertically down at the road, would achieve something like this.

Re:New motorcycle lighting design could save lives by yurishimo on Friday October 21, 2022 @04:40AM (#33285919)
I just moved to the Netherlands where bikes are aplenty and saw one of these two nights ago. It was not so dramatic as the examples you linked but still very visible. I think this could be a good option for motorcycles.