How Google is forcing us to make our open source VoIP app worse

Re:How Google is forcing us to make our open source VoIP app... by asdff on Thursday October 20, 2022 @01:31PM (#33277965)

At the same time, why not just release at least one phone that is developer friendly? People can handle it. All these issues are present on computers that are able to run unsigned code, have sensitive personal info stored on them, etc. Yet the sky is not falling with all this going on with everyone's computer on earth, like how people fear the sky will fall if we opened up the mobile phone.

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Re:How Google is forcing us to make our open source VoIP app... by secretsatan on Thursday October 20, 2022 @01:40PM (#33278068)

They keep making them but they keep failing, because people want phones that work without needing a computer science degree to understand what is safe and what isn’t.

And myself being an apple guy with a dev account, i can install pretty much what i want

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Re:How Google is forcing us to make our open source VoIP app... by ipaddr on Thursday October 20, 2022 @02:38PM (#33278833)

The initial barrier of getting grandma on an iphone is over and the need to dumb down devices to the lowest iq to gain marketshare should be over. It is time to raise the collect iq and at least offer a way to drop the training wheels

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Re:How Google is forcing us to make our open source VoIP app... by jtvjan on Thursday October 20, 2022 @01:38PM (#33278041)

It's easy to install unsigned apps on Android, but not being on the Play Store severely limits your reach, since many people only check there for apps instead of searching on the open web.

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Re:How Google is forcing us to make our open source VoIP app... by ericlnu on Friday October 21, 2022 @09:38AM (#33287876)

FDroid

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Re:How Google is forcing us to make our open source VoIP app... by nemothekid on Thursday October 20, 2022 @01:55PM (#33278293)

>Yet the sky is not falling with all this going on with everyone's computer on earth, like how people fear the sky will fall if we opened up the mobile phone.

This is because everything was moved to the web and users were beaten over the head with a hammer to never install anything on their computers. The sky was falling and subsequently the desktop software platform hardly exists today.

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Re:How Google is forcing us to make our open source VoIP app... by TillE on Thursday October 20, 2022 @02:20PM (#33278616)

I expect Microsoft's built-in antivirus helped a lot too, but yeah, the Windows XP era (c. 2001-2010 probably) was an absolute disaster of malware.

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Re:How Google is forcing us to make our open source VoIP app... by anikom15 on Thursday October 20, 2022 @07:08PM (#33282009)

How exactly was the sky falling?

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Re:How Google is forcing us to make our open source VoIP app... by aasasd on Friday October 21, 2022 @09:11AM (#33287641)

http://static.spiceworks.com/images/how_to_steps/0000/3886/t...

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Re:How Google is forcing us to make our open source VoIP app... by anikom15 on Wednesday October 26, 2022 @11:06PM (#33352592)

This is funny, but in practice there would be maybe one or two of these bars. Many didn’t work together. These toolbars didn’t stop people from being able to work, eat, or pay their bills. I know. I lived through this era.

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Re:How Google is forcing us to make our open source VoIP app... by fsflover on Thursday October 20, 2022 @01:56PM (#33278301)

>why not just release at least one phone that is developer friendly?

Google and Apple want to control their users, they don't want to give you an open phone. Instead have a look at Librem 5 and Pinephone, which run GNU/Linux.

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Re:How Google is forcing us to make our open source VoIP app... by secretsatan on Thursday October 20, 2022 @02:20PM (#33278624)

In a way, but not for your reasons, they want to create mass market devices that if you give one to your grandma, little nephew can twist their arm for the root password to install this totally harmless fun app

Apple realised that far more than google imho

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Re:How Google is forcing us to make our open source VoIP app... by datavirtue on Friday October 21, 2022 @09:49AM (#33287970)

So include a button that rolls back the OS to yesterday? You are inventing a dire issue that does not exist or has a clear, proven solution.

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Re:How Google is forcing us to make our open source VoIP app... by jonas21 on Thursday October 20, 2022 @02:00PM (#33278347)

On most (if not all) Android phones, you can tap the version 8 times to put it into developer mode and then install whatever you want.

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Re:How Google is forcing us to make our open source VoIP app... by ericlnu on Friday October 21, 2022 @09:37AM (#33287864)

All

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Re:How Google is forcing us to make our open source VoIP app... by kk6mrp on Friday October 21, 2022 @10:10AM (#33288163)

Not all, some have this option locked out.

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Re:How Google is forcing us to make our open source VoIP app... by secretsatan on Thursday October 20, 2022 @02:02PM (#33278371)

Depends what you mean by “sky falling on heads” They’re definitely aren’t concerted efforts in companies to not just open any email attachments

No data breaches occur to insecure passwords

Phishing, let alone spear phishing isn’t a thing

No popular app has ever found to be doing naughty things

We’ll not to the oss crowd anyway, if it does happen, it’s coz they aren’t using open source and checking every line of code

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