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Re:The Smash and Grab of Kroger-Albertsons by bombcar on Wednesday October 19, 2022 @01:23PM (#33265234)
And the CEO isn't wrong - customers are used to gas prices flailing all over the place, but they notice food price changes, and so things "build up" over time and when the dam finally breaks, it breaks hard.

Arizona Iced Tea started at 99 cents in 1997 - today that should be $1.83 but it's still 99 cents. Same with Costco's hot dog and chicken (though they've done some noticeable changes on the hot dog).

When the dam breaks, it's not going to go up 10%, it's going to skyrocket to try to make up for lost time.

Re:The Smash and Grab of Kroger-Albertsons by lotsofpulp on Wednesday October 19, 2022 @01:26PM (#33265280)
Those are not good examples. One is sugar water with extremely high profit margins, and the other is likely sold as a loss leader or at most, at cost.

Food prices have been changing for a long time, but only if you pay attention to quantity and ingredients. With gas prices, the unit quantity or ingredient cannot change, so the change is obvious. Same with things like milk and eggs and vegetables though, which do change often.

With processed food, the seller has much more ability to maneuver around having to increase price.

Re:The Smash and Grab of Kroger-Albertsons by bombcar on Wednesday October 19, 2022 @01:36PM (#33265392)
Yeah - my point was that once prices start going up noticeably, all the other processed food manufacturers will increase their prices, also (often with a "return to what the original size was" along with it).
Re:The Smash and Grab of Kroger-Albertsons by ch4s3 on Wednesday October 19, 2022 @02:07PM (#33265798)
> One is sugar water with extremely high profit margins

I assure you, as someone in a position to know the numbers, that sugary beverages have low margins. It is very expensive to move them around, marketing is expensive, and customers are very price sensitive.

Re:The Smash and Grab of Kroger-Albertsons by lotsofpulp on Wednesday October 19, 2022 @02:17PM (#33265931)
Is this at the retail level? At the producer level, profit margins seem quite decent:

https://www.investopedia.com/ask/answers/071015/what-profit-...

Logically, if the same quantity of Arizona Ice Tea retails for the same price as it did 25 years ago, then someone in the supply chain is or was making huge profit margins, considering the increase in materials and transport costs.

Re:The Smash and Grab of Kroger-Albertsons by ch4s3 on Wednesday October 19, 2022 @02:43PM (#33266244)
I don’t have any special insight into Arizona.
Re:The Smash and Grab of Kroger-Albertsons by Firmwarrior on Wednesday October 19, 2022 @05:07PM (#33267945)
Adding onto this a little: I was shocked at how volatile some food prices are, and how much some have gone up recently

https://www.fao.org/worldfoodsituation/foodpricesindex/en/

Depending on how you set your endpoints, you can basically come up with any number for inflation you want, from 1.7% to 20+%

I guess this is all well-understood and taken care of under the hood by processed food companies, though, since the Big Mac Index has pretty steadily held to an inflation level near the CPI

Re:The Smash and Grab of Kroger-Albertsons by jacobr1 on Wednesday October 19, 2022 @05:56PM (#33268375)
The big mac index tracks labor costs as much if not more-so than wholesale food prices.
Re:The Smash and Grab of Kroger-Albertsons by lupire on Thursday October 20, 2022 @08:04AM (#33273381)
Price of anything can be reduced to labor, energy, and scarcity as, you move up the supply chain.
Re:The Smash and Grab of Kroger-Albertsons by datavirtue on Wednesday October 19, 2022 @05:53PM (#33268341)
It's because the consumer literally has to buy hundreds of things. Tinkering with a penny turns into a dollar real quick.
Re:The Smash and Grab of Kroger-Albertsons by lupire on Thursday October 20, 2022 @08:05AM (#33273392)
That's not how it works. It's percentage changes that are significant.
Re:The Smash and Grab of Kroger-Albertsons by datavirtue on Friday October 21, 2022 @10:05AM (#33288118)
Every thing in my cart increases by a penny. It (the cart, my food) now costs $2 more. Easy math. Change that to percentages and amount increases, of course.

They do play with pennies. I worked in a huge national restaurant chain as a teenager and went through numerous menu updates. They were always flipping nickels and pennies all over the place on the menu. As a kid I thought changing the menu prices by five cents was ridiculous. Apparently, that's how it works in this business with razor thin margins.