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Re:Ask HN: How to deal with regret of not having kids by thefz on Wednesday October 19, 2022 @10:29AM (#33262745)
> Parenting is a biological and psychological life milestone

Allow me to disagree. First: there's no evidence of any change in your body, as a male, after becoming a father.

Second: supposing such a "wireless" change would happen, getting someone pregnant and immediately disappearing from their life would yield a perceptible change even with distance and no involvement with the life of the child.

Third: I personally think there's no innate drive to parent, and only an innate drive to mate; everything else is injected by society.

Re:Ask HN: How to deal with regret of not having kids by medvezhenok on Wednesday October 19, 2022 @10:49AM (#33263043)
Not exactly true - they have found statistically significant hormonal changes in men after becoming fathers: https://www.nytimes.com/2020/04/15/parenting/baby/fatherhood...
Re:Ask HN: How to deal with regret of not having kids by em-bee on Wednesday October 19, 2022 @02:53PM (#33266370)
yes, but did they compare to fathers who abandon their partner? or don't even know that they are a father? and likewise to fathers who adopt?

i strongly suspect that it's the act of actively becoming a parent, whether biological or adoptive that is responsible for that change in hormones

Re:Ask HN: How to deal with regret of not having kids by hoorible on Wednesday October 19, 2022 @03:20PM (#33266695)
Which is probably why they said “parenting” and not “impregnating”
Re:Ask HN: How to deal with regret of not having kids by thefz on Wednesday October 19, 2022 @03:38PM (#33266946)
Reading the article... yikes. One more reason not to.
Re:Ask HN: How to deal with regret of not having kids by jlizzle30 on Wednesday October 19, 2022 @11:02AM (#33263258)
There could be a great discussion about whether male parenting and reproduction comes from the bio/psycho/social drives.

For this context, I think trying to make these distinctions is a distraction. By way of common sense, reproducing & parenting has been a HUGE factor in the propagation of human life (this is so obvious it's kind of funny to write).

Re:Ask HN: How to deal with regret of not having kids by thefz on Wednesday October 19, 2022 @03:36PM (#33266922)
> For this context, I think trying to make these distinctions is a distraction.

So basically you don't want to have a discussion that might make you reconsider your belief.

Re:Ask HN: How to deal with regret of not having kids by jlizzle30 on Wednesday October 19, 2022 @03:45PM (#33267045)
No I just don’t have time to write an entire epistemological defense of “reproduction and parenting is a key milestone for humans”. It should be self evident. If you don’t think so, consider what happens if untrue (hint: no more humans).
Re:Ask HN: How to deal with regret of not having kids by thefz on Wednesday October 19, 2022 @04:18PM (#33267445)
You have completely missed the point of all my comments above and took your own tangent.
Re:Ask HN: How to deal with regret of not having kids by newsuser on Wednesday October 19, 2022 @03:54PM (#33267194)
Birth of the first (and only first) child triggers what might be the largest brain rewiring in males since pubety. Women don't seem to undergo a rewiring of the same scale [1].

To me, this makes sense, given how unusual the new skillset has to be compared to pre-fatherhood life (manipulations with the newborn, deciphering needs, new attetion patterns etc.).

[1] Mentioned in the book by Stanislas Dehaene, "Consciousness and the Brain", https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Consciousness_and_the_Brain

Re:Ask HN: How to deal with regret of not having kids by freedom2099 on Wednesday October 19, 2022 @04:55PM (#33267816)
My mother claims that the day my son was born I became a completely different person!